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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2016 20:38:44 GMT
Martin Have you got this book? If not I will send you mine, the system should go 1/2 way down the side wall with NOTHING in between the speakers . What a load of bollocks most are thinking, I thought that too when I first read the book. When I actually tried it, well its a long story, it will never be going back to the old traditional way, ever. getbettersound.com/index.phpTotally agree. It's made a huge difference in every room i have tried it. |
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Post by MartinT on Oct 12, 2016 5:12:57 GMT
Thanks, David. No I don't have that book.
The difficulty I have with any side positioning of the system is that I don't have the speaker cable lengths required for it.
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Post by pinkie on Oct 12, 2016 5:23:40 GMT
Buy longer speaker cables  |
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Post by jandl100 on Oct 12, 2016 7:15:41 GMT
Buy longer speaker cables Martin would probably have to re-mortgage his new home.  |
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Post by jandl100 on Oct 12, 2016 7:17:08 GMT
Martin Have you got this book? If not I will send you mine, the system should go 1/2 way down the side wall with NOTHING in between the speakers . What a load of bollocks most are thinking, I thought that too when I first read the book. When I actually tried it, well its a long story, it will never be going back to the old traditional way, ever. getbettersound.com/index.phpTotally agree. It's made a huge difference in every room i have tried it. OK. In the absence of seeing the book, how does that work? Are there any diagrams on t'net? (Asks the man with a dedicated music room who just might be able to do it). |
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Post by MartinT on Oct 12, 2016 7:22:49 GMT
LOL - they would need to be at least three times the length and I would need to sell the house we are just buying to finance them!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2016 7:36:46 GMT
In terms of Martin's drawing, he would need to locate the hifi roughly where the CD or LP storage is. He would need to leave an empty space between the speakers.
unforunately it does mean longer lengths of speaker cable. I use one 4.5 metre and one 7 metre length. I've tried keeping identical lengths but there was no difference with odd ones.
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Post by jandl100 on Oct 12, 2016 7:40:11 GMT
Ah, OK, thanks. Placed at the mid point.
Speakers still forming a rough equilateral triangle with the listening seat? - or seriously wide angle at the sweet spot?
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Post by pinkie on Oct 12, 2016 7:51:24 GMT
In terms of Martin's drawing, he would need to locate the hifi roughly where the CD or LP storage is. He would need to leave an empty space between the speakers. unforunately it does mean longer lengths of speaker cable. I use one 4.5 metre and one 7 metre length. I've tried keeping identical lengths but there was no difference with odd ones. ditto, although in my case 9m and 6m. Not in my case specifically because I have avoided stuff between the speakers - although on this occasion I have. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2016 8:18:11 GMT
Ah, OK, thanks. Placed at the mid point. Speakers still forming a rough equilateral triangle with the listening seat? - or seriously wide angle at the sweet spot? I'd go with the former although something like Glastonburys liked the latter. |
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Post by MartinT on Oct 12, 2016 9:23:21 GMT
Since I've never had any problems with imaging or soundstaging, I'm afraid that the system-in-the-middle positioning is likely to remain. No-one has yet said what moving it to the side is supposed to achieve?
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Post by jandl100 on Oct 12, 2016 10:33:47 GMT
I think you have misunderstood, Martin.
I think the idea is simply to bring the speakers forward so they are at the mid-point of the room.
I don't have enough room for that - it would make me very close indeed to the speakers.
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Post by pinkie on Oct 12, 2016 11:04:56 GMT
Surely that is going to depend on the speakers And a 3 DVD set to say "Move your speakers to the mid-point" does not compute! Linn Kanns in the middle of the room (OK OK, lets go LS35a) are not going to work, cos they need a wall My ESL 63's I would argue for that - a long way forward of the rear wall (2m in present system) , at LEAST 1 metre from sidewalls, and as wide apart as possible, is the key to a dipole But a regular infinite baffle?  |
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Post by ChrisB on Oct 12, 2016 13:19:16 GMT
I think everyone is confused now. I reckon there are at least three theories on the go as to what people are interpreting into David's post.
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Post by jandl100 on Oct 12, 2016 14:32:04 GMT
I reckon it's all an advert for that book.  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2016 14:43:02 GMT
Maybe we should buy a copy and pass that round instead of CDs  David did offer you a loan, Martin. It must be worth a read when you have Carte Blanche. As for having nothing between the speakers and the system down the side wall, it's not just imaging. There's a big increase in presence, life, coherence and believability IMO. Going back just makes things sound congested and confused. I'm gonna check out the book if it's not a daft price. We hifi enthusiasts spend lots of time and money on kit but little or nothing on savvy. |
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Post by MartinT on Oct 12, 2016 14:53:38 GMT
I'm all for learning - David, I'd love to borrow that book please!
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Post by speedysteve on Oct 12, 2016 18:04:08 GMT
I had my system in the old place on the side, needed 5 lots of 10m for the r.h and 5 lots of 5m for the l.h side.
In the new place the rack is in-between. Can't say I've upset any imagining etc. Perhaps horns being so out in front or the way the wave fronts propagate they do not suffer such?
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Post by Sovereign on Oct 12, 2016 18:08:14 GMT
I've also got the book, and some DVDs of his.
Pm me your address Martin and I'll pop it in the post to you.
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Post by MartinT on Oct 14, 2016 13:31:15 GMT
We have completed. Going to take possession today at 5pm and have the electrician visiting to quote for my radial a little later. Game on!
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