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Post by MartinT on Oct 8, 2016 15:16:17 GMT
First draft - just roughing it out. I will be able to take better measurements when we move in on 14 October. EDIT: now updated to reflect correct shape.  |
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Post by John on Oct 8, 2016 15:48:30 GMT
It be interesting to see if yo still need the tube traps. Do play around with the set up a bit I am sure it take awhile to get it ideal
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2016 16:56:36 GMT
I like the "Barcelona" style sofas but I'm not sure a mustard rug goes well with grey and cream. As for the pink LP storage, I guess Pinkie will approve  |
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Post by MartinT on Oct 8, 2016 17:26:52 GMT
The tiled floor may need some more absorption from the TubeTraps, so I can't see me dialling less than I have at the moment. I like a fairly dead room for good SQ. I will select a fairly deep pile rug for the centre of the room to remove direct floor reflections to the listening position and tune with further rugs if needed. There are three or four PicturePanels to go up on the walls, too.
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Post by MartinT on Oct 8, 2016 17:27:58 GMT
I like the "Barcelona" style sofas but I'm not sure a mustard rug goes well with grey and cream. As for the pink LP storage, I guess Pinkie will approve Please don't take any of the colours as representative, I am not as familiar with Visio as I am with Powerpoint! |
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Post by BilliumB on Oct 8, 2016 18:20:22 GMT
Do you expect the patio doors to cause reflection problems?
Cheers. Bill
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2016 18:22:32 GMT
Sorry, couldn't resist. I do like Barcelona sofas and chairs though. On my wish list  |
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Post by MartinT on Oct 8, 2016 20:12:25 GMT
Do you expect the patio doors to cause reflection problems? Yes I do, and I will use some heavy drapes which are surplus to requirements from Ruth's old house. |
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Post by MartinT on Oct 10, 2016 8:23:57 GMT
Installing a radial: what's the best installation to specify? Luckily, the incoming electrical supply is in a cupboard next to the listening room, so it will only need to be a few metres in length. However, what current rating and can I have an outlet that allows direct cable connection (to the regenerator) plus, say, a double unswitched socket? Single RCD consumer unit?
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Post by Eduardo Wobblechops on Oct 10, 2016 18:36:42 GMT
Installing a radial: what's the best installation to specify? Luckily, the incoming electrical supply is in a cupboard next to the listening room, so it will only need to be a few metres in length. However, what current rating and can I have an outlet that allows direct cable connection (to the regenerator) plus, say, a double unswitched socket? Single RCD consumer unit? Use a large cable to reduce impedance - 10mm say, if you can get away with it. Don't see why not to the rest. |
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Post by MartinT on Oct 10, 2016 20:17:05 GMT
Ok, I've booked an electrician to come and quote for the work. He was ok with the single 16A RCD consumer unit with a cable outlet (I forget what he called it) and a double unswitched socket (I'll give him my Missing Link silver socket to install). He recommended 16A cable, but what you're suggesting sounds a much higher current rating?
EDIT: ah, I see that 10mm is 52A twin and earth cable. Sounds good to me as it's a simple single run. What about a dedicated earth? What are the rules about it now?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2016 20:26:15 GMT
First draft - just roughing it out. I will be able to take better measurements when we move in on 14 October. Well laid out Martin. I thrive on Symmetry having bad OCD. Just a shame the Tube trap near the Room door has to be moved in towards the Patio Door. But i see you have no option. I know it says in the Hi-Fi peeps bible that Speakers have to be placed like that. But it would drive me into malfunction  |
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Post by MartinT on Oct 10, 2016 20:37:48 GMT
You like speakers straight-out rather then toed-in? It all depends on the speakers' balance and your preferred imaging. I like mine highly focussed and toed-in so that they don't quite face me (inner edges just visible) - they always sounds best like that to my ears.
Nothing I can do about the R/H TubeTraps because of the two doors.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2016 20:52:24 GMT
Hi Martin
I don't actually sit in between speakers, i never have done.
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Post by Eduardo Wobblechops on Oct 11, 2016 7:53:06 GMT
Ok, I've booked an electrician to come and quote for the work. He was ok with the single 16A RCD consumer unit with a cable outlet (I forget what he called it) and a double unswitched socket (I'll give him my Missing Link silver socket to install). He recommended 16A cable, but what you're suggesting sounds a much higher current rating? EDIT: ah, I see that 10mm is 52A twin and earth cable. Sounds good to me as it's a simple single run. What about a dedicated earth? What are the rules about it now? Not sure, your sparky will advise. He will probably think you're mad though! |
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Post by MartinT on Oct 11, 2016 7:54:41 GMT
I'm certain of it  |
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Post by Sovereign on Oct 11, 2016 8:42:17 GMT
Hi Martin I don't actually sit in between speakers, i never have done. Where on earth do you sit then???  |
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Post by pinkie on Oct 11, 2016 8:47:54 GMT
Your diagram looks a bit more toed in than you describe for the speakers
If the speakers image that well, a 2 seater sofa is going to provide a dilemma since neither listener is central. Do you usually listen "two up"?
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Post by Sovereign on Oct 11, 2016 8:56:45 GMT
I like Ali's idea about 10mm cable that's normally what you use for an electric shower so the electrician should be well used to using that . You won't be able to get the 10mm into the back of the socket though.
Just make sure that you're not drawing power from the house consumer unit otherwise the effect of a dedicated radial is limited , you must come from the meter via Henley block and bypass the house consumer unit altogether.
As Ali says ask your electrician about earthing, to me it seems like a bit of a grey area . However Russ Andrews says to have five earth rods in a star formation sunk in the garden, all linking back to the Earth in your socket feeding your hi-fi . I can only presume that is up to current regulations but I would doublecheck that myself . I haven't upgraded my earth at all other than the Earth that this in the 10mm armoured cable I have going back to the meter.
So just to clarify you should have incoming tails from the ground going in to house meter, from the house meter you should have a Henley block , from Henley block you should have tails going into a dedicated consumer unit , from consumer unit you should have largest table you can fit into the back of your hi-fi socket .
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Post by MartinT on Oct 11, 2016 9:09:36 GMT
Your diagram looks a bit more toed in than you describe for the speakers If the speakers image that well, a 2 seater sofa is going to provide a dilemma since neither listener is central. Do you usually listen "two up"? It's just a rough diagram! I have my speakers toed in so that I can just see their inner faces. When I listen alone I sit centrally in the sofa. I don't know how the imaging will work in the new room yet, but hopefully it'll accommodate two or more listeners |
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