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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2017 10:52:33 GMT
Bloomin' hell that is a darn site quicker than my 30MB/s download from Sky!
The only thing I have heard though is that Virgin is great whilst ever it is working, but if you have a problem, they have notoriously bad customer service apparently.
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Post by MartinT on Sept 12, 2017 11:02:41 GMT
I got a text message to say that a BT engineer is calling on Thursday. No phone call, no direct admission that the speed we're getting is shit (now down to 6 Meg which is actually the same as the broadband speed we were getting).
However, this is pleasing because it is effectively an admission that something is wrong. I've taken the day off so that I can corner him personally and ensure that everything is checked. I can't even identify which is the master socket and nothing looks like an Openreach socket so it could be that things can be improved our end.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2017 11:46:43 GMT
We had tonnes of problems when we moved from broadband to fibre and it all ended up being related to a faulty telephone connection in our bedroom. It took 6 engineer visits to find that out and fix it, which they did to that their cost which I was not expecting as it was a fault in our house.
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Post by Stratmangler on Sept 12, 2017 15:33:47 GMT
I got a text message to say that a BT engineer is calling on Thursday. No phone call, no direct admission that the speed we're getting is shit (now down to 6 Meg which is actually the same as the broadband speed we were getting). However, this is pleasing because it is effectively an admission that something is wrong. I've taken the day off so that I can corner him personally and ensure that everything is checked. I can't even identify which is the master socket and nothing looks like an Openreach socket so it could be that things can be improved our end. Is your line fed overhead, or is it underground?
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Post by Stratmangler on Sept 12, 2017 15:43:57 GMT
We had tonnes of problems when we moved from broadband to fibre and it all ended up being related to a faulty telephone connection in our bedroom. It took 6 engineer visits to find that out and fix it, which they did to that their cost which I was not expecting as it was a fault in our house. Your delivery method hasn't physically changed, just the location where it's overlaid onto your existing phone connection. The reason why you've had problems is because the quicker your connection is, the less robust it becomes. Quicker speeds have to be delivered over correctly installed cabling, otherwise the end user doesn't get proper service delivery, I do a lot of cable rearranging in my line of work, making sure that DSL services hit the correct point of delivery (ie where the router is going to be sited), and ensuring that subsequent is appropriately connected.
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Post by MartinT on Sept 12, 2017 19:03:12 GMT
Is your line fed overhead, or is it underground? Unfortunately, it disappears down the telegraph pole and goes underground. I suspect it goes into the annex first, where the previous owners had their office and which is now my music room, but I simply cannot be certain. I shall ask the engineer to make the socket we're using in the kitchen for the Smart Hub into our master Openreach socket.
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Post by Stratmangler on Sept 12, 2017 20:46:09 GMT
You'll need to find out where that first leg terminates. If it is in the annex it will need crimping through to the main house, bypassing whatever's in the annex. The more hops there are along the way the higher the overall impedance rises, which is not conducive to high speeds.
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Post by MartinT on Sept 13, 2017 6:12:26 GMT
Thanks, Chris, I suspected as much. As we need precisely one phone socket (for the hub and DECT phone), I'll be happy for him to disconnect all others.
Does Infinity use standard ADSL filters like the one I was using for broadband? Obviously, a proper socket would be better still.
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Post by Stratmangler on Sept 13, 2017 6:46:13 GMT
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Post by MartinT on Sept 13, 2017 7:00:43 GMT
Cheers. I'll have the BT man install a proper socket tomorrow and disconnect all other extension lines. Perhaps he can yield a doubling of speed to, umm, 12 Megs
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Post by Tim on Sept 13, 2017 9:23:43 GMT
The only thing I have heard though is that Virgin is great whilst ever it is working, but if you have a problem, they have notoriously bad customer service apparently. Well all I can say is I have had no problems, installation was a breeze but there was a coax cable here already, so it just needed a switch flicking. My Dad never had a problem (until he switched to BT for the Sport - what a BT nightmare that was) and my friend I have lived with on and off for nearly 2 years over the last decade has never had an issue with Virgin. Which magazine rates them higher than BT, but not by much and they are both in the middle of the pack rating wise for customer satisfaction. Personally over the last 10 years I have had a fair few issues with BT at 3 different addresses, they were all eventually solved but not quickly. Despite the claims made in their relentless current marketing campaign (that bloody budgie ad is on at the movies every damn film), BT cannot compete with Virgin on speed, which was why I chose them. My package is 'up to' 200 MB/s and I get around 190 most of the time. It's not cheap though, I'm on a rolling monthly contract so can cancel at any-time, but it's £37.25 for that convenience.
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Post by MartinT on Sept 13, 2017 11:43:28 GMT
The trouble is, if you have no cable you have no choice. Openreach it is, with your choice of end provider.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2017 12:16:52 GMT
We had tonnes of problems when we moved from broadband to fibre and it all ended up being related to a faulty telephone connection in our bedroom. It took 6 engineer visits to find that out and fix it, which they did to that their cost which I was not expecting as it was a fault in our house. Your delivery method hasn't physically changed, just the location where it's overlaid onto your existing phone connection. The reason why you've had problems is because the quicker your connection is, the less robust it becomes. Quicker speeds have to be delivered over correctly installed cabling, otherwise the end user doesn't get proper service delivery, I do a lot of cable rearranging in my line of work, making sure that DSL services hit the correct point of delivery (ie where the router is going to be sited), and ensuring that subsequent is appropriately connected. Useful to know, Chris, I was informed that the faster performance resulted in it becoming less robust. Interestingly my stability has never been so good since they resolved the internal fault, it must have been an ongoing issue previously.
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Post by Stratmangler on Sept 14, 2017 16:14:33 GMT
How did you get on today, Martin?
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Post by MartinT on Sept 14, 2017 16:46:27 GMT
BT cocked up again. They got my phone number mixed up with someone else. I now have an engineer coming next week. 'Infinity' is still running at 7 Meg.
I suspect that we have multiple issues, the telephone wiring in the house and the Openreach run from the cabinet. Patience will win in the end.
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Post by MikeMusic on Sept 14, 2017 19:22:23 GMT
Hope you get as good an Openreach guy as good as we had when it was finally fixed
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Post by MartinT on Sept 14, 2017 19:24:13 GMT
I had a good one at the last house, he moved my master socket free of charge.
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Post by MikeMusic on Sept 14, 2017 19:27:01 GMT
None of them were bad. This guy just would not go until he found the problem. At least 2 hours and I was helping him
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Post by Slinger on Sept 14, 2017 19:50:11 GMT
BT cocked up again. They got my phone number mixed up with someone else. I now have an engineer coming next week. 'Infinity' is still running at 7 Meg. I suspect that we have multiple issues, the telephone wiring in the house and the Openreach run from the cabinet. Patience will win in the end. I hope you've made Openreach/BT aware that you won't be paying for the service until they have actually provided a service that meets their advertised parameters.
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Post by Tim on Sept 14, 2017 20:03:49 GMT
Best of luck Martin, moving is never easy especially sorting out things like tinternet. Shows how essential it is to many peoples lives. My speed in China was appalling, 7MB/s would have been super quick, I had KB/s out there!
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