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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2016 11:34:27 GMT
Given that talking about anything controversial is banned Could you explain this a little? What do you consider to be controversial? Current affairs. For example TZ-UK has had some excellent threads about Brexit, with a huge range of views, links to interesting news articles, videos, humour. Yes, everyone gets slagged-off and there is bad language and some trolling, but everyone is a grown up and enters at their own risk. If you get fed up with someone you just put them on ignore. I'm not aware of any very serious disputes (threats on people's safety etc.) as the other members act to keep everything within reasonable bounds. You could also un-ban all of the people you have banned on condition they keep their argumentative side for the private forum.... Does the TAS forum software give you the option to give it a try? |
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Post by speedysteve on Jul 7, 2016 11:48:20 GMT
Like the F1 criticism of MotoGP a few years back "too much overtaking" ! Yeah well MotoGP cured that. Often processional after the initial shake out post start, compared to how it was. Traction control / mapping to blame. |
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Post by julesd68 on Jul 7, 2016 12:07:30 GMT
Ok, thanks Tim. I may dip into the Steve Hoffman forum again, although the last time I tried I came away with friction burns! There is some useful info on the Hoffman forum but as Tim said it's impossible to keep up with as their post count is just so high - it would be a full time job! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2016 12:31:08 GMT
Looks like my type of forum
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Post by julesd68 on Jul 7, 2016 12:33:21 GMT
Most people have Agenda's which are a big part of forums for people. Cars, Bikes, Audio Forums what ever it be are full of snobs that look down on people with lesser equipment/Toys. I have not been popular in the past fighting against this crap, on many occasion reversing the tables & saying the expensive/Hi-End gear is the inferior clobber. Going off topic a bit: You take someone with Expensive Equipment Vs Modest Equipment. You can put money on the table very few with Modest gear swap it [Unless they are taken in by Forum crap], where as the others are always swapping. Regardless of what excuses they come up with the reason for the swapping is they know full well they aint happy with what they have, but will never admit it. Just continuing a bit OT - Thankfully I've not really come across much of this snobbery. I have a number of friends who have spent much more cash than me on their system but haven't for one minute turned their noses up at mine. We all enjoy the same journey but take different paths ... Whilst I've never been a manic box swapper, for a number of years I have been trying out various bits of what some might call modest gear in my system until I've got it to the point now where I am very happy with it and don't have the means to spend on significant 'improvements'. Aside from a change of cartridge my current system has been the same for a good few years now. That hasn't stopped me thinking about what I might try next but I don't spend night and day dreaming about it! Of course, what I term 'modest' would be completely unthinkable for some people, so it's all relative ... In terms of *value for money* it is very difficult to beat well chosen vintage gear. However, in terms of outright performance as I heard recently, you put up a pair of superb Isobariks against the latest TAD speakers, they just can't compete. You could argue though that the Isobarik is the better speaker for the performance and satisfaction it delivers for a chunk of change less ... The more different routes there are to the way people listen to their music and the gear they choose, the more we have to talk about - isn't that partly the point of a hi-fi forum? |
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Post by MikeMusic on Jul 7, 2016 13:53:49 GMT
Like the F1 criticism of MotoGP a few years back "too much overtaking" ! Yeah well MotoGP cured that. Often processional after the initial shake out post start, compared to how it was. Traction control / mapping to blame. Technology and the increasing levels of the riders in MotoGP Moto2 and Moto3 can be lunatic, from memory. I'm not signing up to BT and Dorna have done a few U turns on what they say they want. Losing the plot |
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Post by Tim on Jul 7, 2016 14:34:28 GMT
I wanted to know which other forums fulfil members' needs in their leisure or work pursuits. None, life's too short to spend many hours a day on forums and watching TV (did I say that out loud!)  |
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Post by MartinT on Jul 7, 2016 14:34:28 GMT
Ok, thanks for that. We're discussing it. |
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Post by MartinT on Jul 7, 2016 14:39:30 GMT
The situation they get themselves into is they have boasted to friends & Forum buddies.. LOL - I don't know about others, but the idea of boasting to anyone about my system is laughable. Boast to whom? Apart from the other mods, I have no friends who are at all interested in hi-fi and few friends who are even interested in music. It's a lonely pursuit! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2016 15:37:41 GMT
Ok, thanks for that. We're discussing it. Great thank you. I think the advantage of TAS doing this is that you have a good group of admins who could stand above any disagreements. I couldn't see it working on other forums with just one owner, as they would take things too personally. I don't see how you could lose by giving it a trial period, and it would be a big incentive for people to post in the main forum to get access to the private area, which helps with the general hifi discussion as well. I would be interested to hear other forum users' views.... |
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Post by ynwan on Jul 7, 2016 16:41:14 GMT
Surely a HiFi and music forum is for the discussion of such, not current affairs (politics). If people want to discuss politics there are plenty of alternative platforms on which to do so.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2016 16:58:59 GMT
Surely a HiFi and music forum is for the discussion of such, not current affairs (politics). If people want to discuss politics there are plenty of alternative platforms on which to do so. I disagree. Why shouldn't people who share a common interest discuss anything they want? You don't have to read the threads you find uninteresting. In any case it wouldn't bother you because with your post count you wouldn't see it ;-) TAS has about 350 members. The admins make the majority of posts. It is as boring as watching paint dry at the moment. I'm not suggesting you can't discuss hifi if you want to, but what gives you the right to prevent me discussing what I want? I agree there are other forums to discuss other things, that is why I (and hardly anybody else) posts on this forum. |
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Post by jandl100 on Jul 7, 2016 17:07:37 GMT
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Post by ynwan on Jul 7, 2016 17:23:04 GMT
I'm sure you do disagree though it's difficult to see which part of my previous post can be contradicted. This is a forum set up with intent of discussing music and HiFi and there are many other forums on which people can discuss politics (or current affairs as you refer to it). If you don't find the content of the forum interesting (which rather begs the question why you joined in the first place) then contribute something - if you don't have anything music or HiFi related to contribute then perhaps you are in the wrong place. What gives me 'the right' is you - you asked for people's opinions and I have given you mine. Just because it doesn't fit with your wishes doesn't mean your free speech is being denied and nor are you being oppressed.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2016 17:29:52 GMT
I'm sure you do disagree though it's difficult to see which part of my previous post can be contradicted. This is a forum set up with intent of discussing music and HiFi and there are many other forums on which people can discuss politics (or current affairs as you refer to it). If you don't find the content of the forum interesting (which rather begs the question why you joined in the first place) then contribute something - if you don't have anything music or HiFi related to contribute then perhaps you are in the wrong place. What gives me 'the right' is you - you asked for people's opinions and I have given you mine. Just because it doesn't fit with your wishes doesn't mean your free speech is being denied and nor are you being oppressed. I'm still not clear what you have against me discussing politics in a separate section of the forum. Why would that make your forum experience worse? |
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Post by ynwan on Jul 7, 2016 17:45:15 GMT
Similarly, I'm not clear why you are keen to discuss politics - is there not sufficient opportunity already existing (I see you already do so on the AoS forum)? Do 'current affairs' forums have a separate section to discuss music and HiFi?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2016 18:08:06 GMT
Similarly, I'm not clear why you are keen to discuss politics - is there not sufficient opportunity already existing (I see you already do so on the AoS forum)? Do 'current affairs' forums have a separate section to discuss music and HiFi? I haven't visited or posted on AOS for several months. It's just a suggestion to follow a model of a highly successful forum with 4,000 active members and 30 million page views every year v a forum with about 20 active members. If TAS owners choose not to go that way then I won't complain, I'll just go elsewhere for my online community, along with almost everyone else in the hifi world. |
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Post by Slinger on Jul 7, 2016 18:24:44 GMT
Similarly, I'm not clear why you are keen to discuss politics - is there not sufficient opportunity already existing (I see you already do so on the AoS forum)? Do 'current affairs' forums have a separate section to discuss music and HiFi? Sometimes it's nicer to have a chat among people one has got to know, even if only via a common forum, than go to a 'heavyweight' forum that specialises in (for instance) current affairs. I've no doubt that if some of us met up for real we'd talk a lot about music and hifi, but it's not beyond the bounds of comprehension to imagine that the conversation would be more varied than that. An interesting thread (NOT TO BE STARTED HERE!) might be how we see Brexit affecting the costs associated with our hobby and how 'foreign' buyers might take advantage of the currently weak Pound. That conversation is impossible under current forum rules. Also, as this is the friendly forum I'm pretty sure you won't be forced to read any of it should it happen, but it might be construed as a bit selfish to say it shouldn't happen just because you don't agree with it. |
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Post by ynwan on Jul 7, 2016 19:59:42 GMT
No one is forced to read anything - obviously. 'Losenotaminute' asked for other people's opinions and I gave mine. It's up to the forum owners and moderators whether they implement this idea.
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Post by The Brookmeister on Jul 7, 2016 20:14:32 GMT
Discussing politics is about exciting to me as walking around town with a nail in my foot. TAS sorry guys is so boring these days its of no interest to most folk. It needs spicing up a bit. It needs more content.
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