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Post by stanleyb on Aug 26, 2016 9:04:30 GMT
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Post by MartinT on Aug 26, 2016 10:16:09 GMT
You can't go far wrong with the Canon IXUS range. Small, well made, take good pictures and have a large screen on the back.
The last time I looked at the smileys I added a few and then got bored with it!
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Post by pinkie on Aug 26, 2016 10:23:39 GMT
The last time I looked at the smileys I added a few and then got bored with it! They are there as text - but not the smiley. My glass was there before |
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Post by pinkie on Aug 26, 2016 10:28:40 GMT
Thanks - I'll investigate those Canon recommendations
Which one is Pink?
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Post by MartinT on Aug 26, 2016 10:43:32 GMT
They are there as text - but not the smiley. My glass was there before Oh I see now. Some of the new ones have disappeared. I will investigate later... |
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Post by pinkie on Aug 26, 2016 12:21:56 GMT
I've looked at the Canons. The Ixus almost certainly would be more than adequate for what Sue NEEDS (and is available in Pink) but I'm quite taken with the G7x - which appears to be the current model, best option equivalent to the S120. I am getting lured back into taking pictures, and I am much more open to the idea with a pocket camera, and as we have discussed several times recently, you never regret buying quality.
However, I wondered whether there was a Nikon model that would nearly make the grade, and the DL24-85 looks to be what the doctor ordered, apart from the tiny detail of earthquakes in Japan disrupting its manufacture s it doesnt exist. My thinking was to stay with one brand. One set of Codecs, one RAW editing program, consistent terminology and menus, and a wife who is easily confused by all this.
Mind - they are 2 completely separate packages, the Canons strength for high ISO's v the Nikons strength for High FPS is more relevant, the menus are probably not that different, and we nearly always convert from NEFF to JPEG and do all our editing in Xara - and really hardly use View NX 2, and 'Evans only knows when the Nikon will be available
Thoughts?
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Post by stanleyb on Aug 26, 2016 13:19:55 GMT
If you need high ISO or high FPS then go for the one that has what you need.
I have been taking pictures for more than 45 years, but have never had to use high ISO or high frame rates intentionally. I am happy with 100 or 200 ISO for best noise performance. And I use 1FPS for best stability and a minimum of shutter shock. I am more worried about how fast the lens is, the zoom range, and how quick the camera transfers data to the storage card.
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Post by pinkie on Aug 26, 2016 13:37:04 GMT
Thanks
A lot of the photos Sue has to take are interior room shots in poor daylight, so it helps to have a low noise performance up to say ISO 3000. The high FPS will be irrelevant to her work, but maybe of interest (very marginal) for our general photography
I was particularly interested in comments about whether it is better to stick with one brand rather than 2 for image editiing and the like. Although since the Nikon is still not yet released this may be academic
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Post by MartinT on Aug 26, 2016 14:50:06 GMT
I doubt that mixing brands is such an issue these days, and software like Xara will read all the formats.
It's the little things like image stabilisation, low noise, infra-red low light focussing and fast shutter response that make it a great camera for me.
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Post by stanleyb on Aug 26, 2016 15:03:18 GMT
The S120 has a f1.8 lens, which is astonishing for a zoom in any camera format. That in turn reduces the need for a higher ISO setting.
As for brands: I am a Panasonic man myself, which means that I can choose between a lot of the Leica and Olympus accessories due to their compatibility with each other.
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Post by pinkie on Aug 26, 2016 15:19:21 GMT
Yes - the new Nikon has all of those features - well the lens is f1.8-f2.8 on both the Canon G7x and the Nikon so only F2.8 at telephoto - but that won't matter for room photography. It is signifcantly better than the old "coolpix"
(both the Tamron lenses for the D7100 are F2.8 across the range - that includes the 70-200mm - a heavy lump of glass. In practice F2.8 gives plenty of low light ability, although I keep toying with an F1.8 or F1.4 prime lens (which of course isn't true prime due to the APS-C image sensor size)
But the Nikon DL24-85 is still not available for sale, and I am inclined to agree with Martin that the differences won't matter much. Sue gets very muddled with the "techno" stuff. She is naturally creative, but number-phobic and has really struggled with (but at last grabbed at least the principle of ) the ISO - shutter speed - aperture triangle for exposure. All of that should be pretty much the same, its just menu navigation and a few terms that will confuse a bit possibly
And I can see her failing to understand why one RAW image will load in one piece of software and not another
But I think I am 95% sold on this G7x - which I understand to be the equivalent to the S120 in Canon's current range
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Post by pinkie on Aug 26, 2016 15:58:52 GMT
Oh shute - it gets more complicated The G9x is the equivalent of the S-100 (which though officially discontinued, at least in France) appears to be still internationally available and has a true F1.8 at all focal lengths. It does however have a smaller image sensor and lower resolution (more than adequate for Sue, which was what I originally asked, but I'm getting the bug for me) The G7x is a different spec (not necessarily higher) to the G9x But coming round to Canon  |
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Post by MartinT on Aug 26, 2016 16:07:59 GMT
Buy a good accessory card reader. Despite all cameras having a USB cable these days, the way they present themselves can be quite wayward.
Taking the card out and putting it in the reader gives you a folder full of images, which is exactly what you expect to see.
Oh, and if you haven't already, open a free account with Flickr. They give you a terabyte of cloud storage for all the photos you're ever going to take.
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Post by ChrisB on Aug 26, 2016 16:54:36 GMT
I can't help thinking your requirements for this camera go way beyond what Sue actually needs Richard.
I reckon you're in the market for two cameras, not one!
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Post by pinkie on Aug 26, 2016 18:56:59 GMT
You're right CHris. The spec has changed. Stans suggestion of the S100 was perfect for the original spec. But I've got the bug and fancy the 7x. Like a former alcoholic just having a drink or two helping Sue get going, I'm getting lured back in And a good compact would be of value beyond the agency need. |
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Post by ChrisB on Aug 26, 2016 19:02:31 GMT
Heh-heh - gotcha!
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Post by MartinT on Aug 26, 2016 20:42:33 GMT
As for brands: I am a Panasonic man myself Me too, I love my Lumix GF1. |
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Post by pinkie on Aug 27, 2016 17:20:59 GMT
I like Nikon. Perhaps I'll learn to love Canon too. (My film camera was an Olympus OM2) We face west on our patio, and my view through the speakers out of the French windows is west. We get a fabulous display most evenings, different every evening. We were told we'd get bored of it. Still waiting to. Here's what the Nikon made of it  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2016 19:53:17 GMT
For everyday pictures Fuji Finepix Z300
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Post by MartinT on Aug 27, 2016 21:15:43 GMT
Here's what the Nikon made of it Lovely view, Richard. I don't think I'd tire of that either. |
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