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Post by danielquinn on Aug 8, 2014 17:50:34 GMT
I have no doubt there are people of talent and skill. You could probably say that of the daily mail and the tory party.  |
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Post by MartinT on Aug 8, 2014 19:45:24 GMT
Careful - politics are off limits.
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Post by pre65 on Aug 8, 2014 20:53:11 GMT
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Post by MikeMusic on Aug 9, 2014 7:52:44 GMT
What a world we live in
If only *some* of this focus, money and life force could be directed at stopping wars and doing what the former head of 'the evil empire' is doing banishing malaria and others
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2014 7:58:35 GMT
What a world we live in If only *some* of this focus, money and life force could be directed at stopping wars and doing what the former head of 'the evil empire' is doing banishing malaria and others Miracles might happen but sadly, greed seems to overcome all obstacles. |
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Post by MartinT on Aug 9, 2014 8:59:48 GMT
The pure technical challenge of F1 for me is compelling viewing. Man and machine at their limits. What they are doing with 1.6l engines is serious leading edge engineering.
The finance and political aspects of F1 may be less savoury, but I don't let that cloud my view. Let's face it, all technology leading groups have their crosses to bear: look at the history of NASA's funding over the years, and then look at their successes. One is small-minded human behaviour, the other our true sense of adventure and exploration. Cannot be compared.
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Post by MikeMusic on Aug 9, 2014 9:30:37 GMT
I used to love F1 and watched it for years. Think it was the Mclaren processions that did it for me.
Lost a lot of interest in MotoGP as it became more 'professional' and more processional
Technical plateauing in both should make it closer but appears not to
Some of the technical stuff is awe inspiring and one big thing in MotoGP is the stunning angles they lean at.
Life not so dissimilar to music.
Wonderful musicians not necessarily earning much at all and some money grabbers earning millions.
Let's not start on bankers.....
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Post by dvh on Aug 9, 2014 11:10:36 GMT
It's funny politics being off-limits, given the angst and ire that cables and suchlike generate.
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Post by MartinT on Aug 9, 2014 11:32:07 GMT
That's not politics as commonly understood. Just some members taking entrenched positions and unable to argue the point without losing their cool and making it personal.
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Post by dvh on Aug 9, 2014 11:53:04 GMT
Yes, of course. The point is that those same people will approach any discussion in the same way, whether about hifi, sport, or politics; ie they will take any disagreement as a personal insult rather than the expression of a differing opinion. As the late Auberon Waugh put it: '"It is the mark of a civilized man in a civilized society that he can listen to the fatuous and objectionable opinions of other people without reacting violently".
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2014 12:17:55 GMT
Yes, of course. The point is that those same people will approach any discussion in the same way, whether about hifi, sport, or politics; ie they will take any disagreement as a personal insult rather than the expression of a differing opinion. As the late Auberon Waugh put it: '"It is the mark of a civilized man in a civilized society that he can listen to the fatuous and objectionable opinions of other people without reacting violently". Its a hell of an assumption that mankind can be civilised  |
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Post by MikeMusic on Aug 9, 2014 12:31:16 GMT
If only
I daren't look at Aljazeera to see their take on the latest conflicts, mainly as they seem to state the bleedin' obvious - once they have said it and you have understood it.
EG. Pakistan will happily fight terrorists, up to around 80%, as if they eliminate them totally the massive amount of dough from the US dries up
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Post by Dave on Aug 24, 2014 15:17:38 GMT
So, is Mercedes responsible for Rosberg's and Hamilton's coming together on lap two at Spa? Partly in my opinion as they should be giving their drivers clear instructions not to tangle at the start of a GP especially as the entire team has so much to lose. Having said that Rosberg is well aware that Hamilton is a fighter, after all he has been racing the guy for his entire career, therefore he should have anticipated that Lewis was not going to just roll over and let him through, especially as Lewis had the racing line.
I've not seen Toto Wolff looking so angry during a post race interview as he did today and to his credit he did not mince his words, laying the blame squarely at Nico's door as did Lauda. What happens now then? That's a difficult one because regardless of the circumstances Rosberg scored good points for the team today. I suppose the sixty four million dollar question is, how many more would Merecedes have harvested had Nico not been so reckless?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2014 15:50:31 GMT
I missed the start and the crash. Good way for Nico to make sure Hamilton didn't score too many points though??
The last few laps were terrific. The battle for fifth proved that racing is still possible even with remote controlled drivers. Most enjoyable.
Wolf and Lauda are quite right. To hit a team mate on the second lap is just unforgivable. AS Hamilton said, Nico will be pleased in any case and what is a fine going to mean to him if he wins the championship. Two definitely dodgy moves he's pulled. I wouldn't trust him an inch now.
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Post by John on Sept 7, 2014 13:29:26 GMT
Fantastic drive by Hamilton today
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Post by Paul on Sept 7, 2014 15:31:47 GMT
Good drive by Hamilton and Bottas, both after tricky starts. Ricciardo definitely worth his move to Red Bull, one to watch for the future. Kvayt did very well to avoid a crash, good avoiding action. Also nice to see Massa finally get a deserved podium.
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Post by MartinT on Sept 7, 2014 15:56:28 GMT
Great psychological win for Hamilton, he dominated despite the dodgy start. Forgot to put a new Duracell in it, most likely.
Star drivers also were Bottas and Ricciardo. I feel certain that the latter is a future world champion.
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Post by AlexM on Sept 8, 2014 13:22:23 GMT
So is Bottas, I think, provided Williams continue with their upwards progress. He was mighty on the brakes into turn 1 - how many passes did he do yesterday? He kept it cool and raced with considerable panache. Massa also had a quiet but effective race landing on the final podium step.
They have produced a superbly effective and raceable package this year and together with the arrival of Pat Simmonds as CTO are well placed to have a strong finish to the season.
As a long term fan of the team I couldn't be more pleased, and I hope they can sustain next year, but Red Bull, McClaren and Ferrari still have far greater resources and are sure to close the gap.
Special mentions must be made of Ricciardo, Perez and Button, whose frenetic dicing made for one of the most entertaining Italian GP I can remember.
Cheers,
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Post by MartinT on Sept 8, 2014 14:34:15 GMT
Agreed, Alex, I have great affection for the Williams team ever since I visited their factory a good number of years ago (my then company sponsored them). It's great to see them on the rise again.
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Post by MartinT on Sept 21, 2014 21:41:01 GMT
I was pleased to see Hamilton work hard for both his qualifying and race win. It must be satisfying for him to have a glitch-free weekend for once. The Mercedes didn't have it all their way this time, and the safety car really put a spanner in the works.
Poor Bottas, running out of tyre one lap before the finish.
Could someone please shoot Eddie Jordan before he's ever allowed to do another podium interview?
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