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Post by terrybooth on Jan 3, 2016 13:30:54 GMT
The NVA loan TIS (the Interconnect Statement) will be winging it's way south on Monday. Should land Tuesday or Wednesday.
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Post by John on Jan 3, 2016 19:13:02 GMT
Please report your findings
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Post by terrybooth on Jan 3, 2016 19:27:41 GMT
It will arrive with MartinT first.
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Post by MartinT on Jan 3, 2016 20:39:21 GMT
Thanks, Terry. I'm looking forward to trying it.
P.S. care to describe your findings?
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Post by dsjr on Jan 4, 2016 8:04:35 GMT
Slippery slope - if you identify where 'The Doc' is coming from and sadly for the price, the wire itself is very costly and the whole thing takes ages to make in comparison with the cheaper ones - I watched my half metre one being made up.
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Post by MartinT on Jan 4, 2016 12:38:16 GMT
I'm moving this thread to the Accessories section where cables live.
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Post by MartinT on Jan 6, 2016 6:37:37 GMT
TIS cable safely arrived. I'll be firing it up this evening.
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Post by dsjr on Jan 6, 2016 16:31:36 GMT
it would be interesting to see how you and your wildly different system deals with it and whether you think it deals with the music similarly in effect to the BMU.
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Post by MartinT on Jan 8, 2016 20:06:25 GMT
Preliminary findings of the TIS only, I want to listen to a lot more genres before I say too much. I'll try and write it up over the weekend.
Comparison is with my Yannis 222 ConnectLitz silver interconnects with WBT 0110Ag plugs. This is a very fair comparison in that the pricing is largely similar between them. There are no direction markings on the TIS, which is disappointing. It's more about not using them in opposition than about absolute direction, so I hoped for the best and left them paired as Terry had packed them.
In the preamp to power amp position (my most critical single-ended interconnect) and upon some extended listening to rock & singer/songwriter music, I'm not hearing anything that the TIS does worse than the Yannis. There are a couple of areas where it's better: 1) in the positioning, separation and focus of percussive instruments in the soundstage; 2) in the potency and depth of the bass while retaining tightness and impact.
With choral, the two cables are closer in performance and I need to listen some more. Choral music is so complex that it often runs out of resolution in the CD format, so I'll try some SACD tomorrow. However, that powerful bass performance was wonderful on the very deep organ pedals in the Durufle Requiem.
More soon.
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Post by dsjr on Jan 9, 2016 10:58:21 GMT
The cables used in all NVA interconnects don't 'seem' to have a direction to them, so don't worry on that score. My TIS hasn't been removed in recent times, but I've done this with SC and SSC aplenty over the last eighteen months and I'm damned if I can remember which way round each conductor should be, let alone overall alignment. I've given up fretting about it CD runs out of resolution? Best save that for another discussion methinks [grin]
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Post by MartinT on Jan 9, 2016 11:34:05 GMT
I have heard interconnects and speaker cables that sound 'skewed' and weird if one cable is reversed, so I tend to mark them with arrows even if the manufacturer hasn't.
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Post by dsjr on Jan 9, 2016 12:57:43 GMT
So have I - and it came as a pleasant surprise to find that NVA amongst a very few others, isn't one of them.
Worst for directionality for me was the Chord Solid mk1, which really was incredibly directional in the setups I tried it in, so much so it really did shift the perceived stereo image over if one was the 'wrong way round.'
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Post by MartinT on Jan 9, 2016 13:33:39 GMT
P.S. care to describe your findings? You've been very quiet about it, terrybooth ?
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Post by MartinT on Jan 9, 2016 15:25:29 GMT
I'm getting a better handle on what the TIS cable is doing. I think it's not fully burned in yet as it's marginally improving. It's highly musical and great flow and I've been blasting out music all day, some serious listening and some while I'm pootling around the house. I'll try and write my thoughts up tomorrow.
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Post by terrybooth on Jan 9, 2016 15:37:22 GMT
P.S. care to describe your findings? You've been very quiet about it, terrybooth ? Posted once and it disappeared - I must have pressed the wrong button. I've described my findings over at HFS briefly. Unfortunately, the arrival of the TIS coincided with a virus and a bunged up ear, in addition, I was playing around with Chromecast Audio (more later) and so I don't think I really did a thorought job. Most of my listening was with the TIS in between either my Raspberry Pi2/Hifiberry+ or a Chromecast Audio and the pre-amp and comparing with NVA SSC or SP in the context of an NVA system. P90 SA A80 and A70 monoblocks SSP (mostly) interconnects LS7 Cubix speakers (A80s driving the top units) I thought that TIS did a sonic window cleaning job compared to the other cables: instruments were better separated when playing together and each has more of its own character; the soundstage was generally a bit bigger; and there was more subtle detail by which I mean that the musical intent of the performers was a bit easier to hear and the whole thing sounded more like a performance. However, I spent a lot of my time comparing the Chromecast Audio with my Pi and here I think the TIS allowed me to hear differences more clearly. I was (am) quite surprised by the sound quality you get from the Chromecast and certainly using it with the TIS made it very listenable - so I spend a good deal of my listening time doing that as my ear recovered.
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Post by MartinT on Jan 10, 2016 18:04:55 GMT
NVA TISConstruction of the NVA TIS (The Interconnect Statement) is good and weighty with the kind of build that gives you the confidence it's not going to fall apart. It's multiply screened as described in the website: The phono plugs are an odd design with a retractable connecting shield that gives the impression of a poor connection until you learn to push harder, when it suddenly snaps into a tight fit. Comparison is with my favoured Yannis 222 ConnectLitz silver interconnects with WBT 0110Ag plugs. This is a very fair comparison since the pricing is largely similar. There are no direction markings on the TIS and NVA claim they are directionless. Nevertheless, I was careful to preserve the pairing while switching them around. Normally I would mark arrows on them, but not, of course, on loan equipment. I used the interconnects primarily in the preamp to power amp position (my most critical single-ended interconnect). I also tried the DAC to preamp link, but here the TIS and Yannis were a closer match. I started with some extended listening to rock & singer/songwriter music. There are a few areas where the TIS sounds better than the Yannis: 1) in the positioning, separation and focus of percussive instruments in the soundstage; 2) in the potency and depth of the bass while retaining tightness and impact; 3) in stereo separation and wide soundstaging. The overall impression when playing such music is of a highly musical, non-harsh yet vivid presentation of a wide soundstage with clearly delineated voice and instruments and a very firm fundamental bass accompaniment. I stress non-harsh as some silver cables can be rather strident when unsympathetically matched. No such problem here, the TIS has no apparent harshness yet is highly detailed in the treble. With classical and especially choral music, the two cables are closer in performance but I still hear better detail resolution on the TIS with difficult massed voices. Choral music is so complex that it often runs out of resolution in the CD format, and SACD shows a distinct advantage here. The TIS responds by allowing slightly more insight into the layering of vocals and positioning around the venue. I do detect some foreshortening of depth here, where the Yannis has a small advantage. However, where the TIS may lose slightly in depth perception it wins back in immediacy and sheer verve across a whole variety of music. Meanwhile, that powerful bass performance underpins the proceedings and is wonderful on very deep organ pedals in the Durufle Requiem, Widor's 6th Symphony and selected other recordings with exceptional deep bass. At £560 per 1m pair, these are not inexpensive interconnects. Roughly equal in price to the Yannis, and considerably less expensive than the best interconnects I have heard (the Coherent 6D), I think the TIS is excellent value for money with its high end exciting and detailed sound, which is more than a match for my high end system. I shall be sending them on very reluctantly, which is as good a recommendation as I can give.
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Post by dsjr on Jan 10, 2016 19:02:47 GMT
Accudazed (Chris) is next on the list as far as I can see. Thanks for the kind words..
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Post by ChrisB on Jan 10, 2016 19:04:53 GMT
Steve
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Post by MartinT on Jan 10, 2016 19:11:52 GMT
Yes, doing some more listening and really enjoying it. Will pull the cables tomorrow and pack them off. I have Steve's details.
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Post by ChrisB on Jan 10, 2016 19:20:39 GMT
Neutrik Profi plugs have that spring loaded earth collar arrangement - no buzzes, hums or howls because earth makes contact first.
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