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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2016 9:39:06 GMT
I think both the Webber/Vettel and Hakkinen/Coulthard pairings have a parallel with Ricciardo/Verstappen. Vettel and Hakkinen always seemed to get the good luck, media attention and team favouritism. I see the seeds of a similar issue again at Red Bull. I don't like Verstappen one bit, so I hope Ricciardo manages to beat him to any title they have a chance of winning. He would certainly be a very popular champion.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2016 11:57:17 GMT
I don't like Verstappen one bit. Why don't you like Verstappen? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2016 15:15:18 GMT
Good question: Ive never taken to people who drive beyond what I feel is fair. He's crossed that line way too many times for me and he's been dismissive and disrespectful when challenged. His comments in response to Niki Lauda Spring to mind. I think he has a dangerously arrogant mindset that is beyond the pale. How much of this is parental influence, I'm not sure, I thought his dad was a comple and utter tosser on track, so I still hope he changes as he matures and is less influenced by people around him. I see no sign of that so far.
I also don't like team favouritism and I regard his maiden win as a manipulation of a race that Ricciardo should (and would) have won. Red Bull have always played favourites so I'm not entirely surprised by it.
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Post by stanleyb on Oct 25, 2016 17:12:10 GMT
I am also not sure that Max is a likeable person. He seems to be of the opinion that it is all about him, instead of F1 and his team. His comments that he was not there to be fourth is a typical example. Talking to your pit crew like that is bound to affect the rapport in the team. Bad mouthing others is also a no go. He is not Lewis Hamilton in achievements, so trying to copy Lewis, and going even further, is going to bite him. Bottas had a bit of that steak one time, be it a lot milder. But he is finding out that his bark is nowhere as good as his bite on the track. Max is facing the prospects of making himself a marketing outcast if he keeps this up.
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Post by kettlechips on Oct 26, 2016 14:02:31 GMT
Mexican GPS this weekend. I see that the organisers of the Austin event are asking that the two races should not be back-to-back in the future, as they impact on ticket sales. Certainly Texas and Mexico are so close that they are probably both competing, to some extent, for the same audience.
Let's see if Lewis can continue to win every race till the end of the season! Seems unlikely he may need Nico to have a DNF.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2016 14:11:39 GMT
Personally I would like Rosberg to have a DNF, but then again I am not at all bitter  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2016 14:18:36 GMT
I see a big possibility of them taking each other off before the end of the season. Mercedes will make the usual protestations but now the constructors title is in the bag I don't see it being as big an issue.
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Post by robbiegong on Oct 26, 2016 22:01:30 GMT
I see a big possibility of them taking each other off before the end of the season. Mercedes will make the usual protestations but now the constructors title is in the bag I don't see it being as big an issue. Yeah, that would be rough indeed, and yes, it could happen and would suit a certain 'berg to do so knowing it would actually benefit him and greatly truth be known  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2016 5:34:33 GMT
I don't think Toto Wolff helped with his comments either. He said Rosberg was in a difficult position because he needed to avoid a DNF, which others could exploit as a weakness. IMO a comment like that is literally asking for trouble. After backing out of previous duels with Hamilton, I think he's determined to prove a point and we know already that Hamilton won't back out. If it happens, we may then see a similar risk from Ricciardo and "Mad Max" because that one is inevitable at some point.
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Post by davidf on Oct 27, 2016 12:05:56 GMT
The US Grand Prix was intriguing for me, whilst Lewis won and he was happy, he didn't seem quite as cheerful as I might have expected (maybe me). Maybe because although he got the best possible result he could, and is one step closer to the championship, so is Rosberg finishing in second. I think he knows he's really up against it after Singapore. One engine failure could finish either one of them with regards to the title, and that's got to be weighing on Hamilton's mind. |
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Post by robbiegong on Oct 27, 2016 12:29:13 GMT
I don't think Toto Wolff helped with his comments either. He said Rosberg was in a difficult position because he needed to avoid a DNF, which others could exploit as a weakness. IMO a comment like that is literally asking for trouble. After backing out of previous duels with Hamilton, I think he's determined to prove a point and we know already that Hamilton won't back out. If it happens, we may then see a similar risk from Ricciardo and "Mad Max" because that one is inevitable at some point. This will be less of an issue with Ricciardo and Verstappen. They showed the other week how they can go at it, side by side, hell for leather and NOT run each other, crash or make contact. Rosberg on the other hand is not good at this stuf at all, it's called race craft. He deliberately took Hamilton out in the Spanish Grand Prix and has shown a number of times that when it comes to it his 'skill' or driving style is to keep the car straight on a corner, forcing the other car off, rather than actually turn and follow the corner round. That's why you are in trouble if you have a full on scrap on track with Rosberg and that's not good for Hamilton, particularly at the mo and has to be avoided if at all possible  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2016 12:58:19 GMT
It will be a real pity if the title is decided by reliability issues or shunts, but it won't be the first or last time.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2016 12:13:46 GMT
If you ever needed proof that our brains shrink with age, just tune in to Bernie for a few minutes. He's guaranteed to come up with something moronic. Now he thinks we should build walls on circuit corners. Nothing like the risk of a fatality or double limb amputation to revitalise F1: www.gptoday.com/full_story/view/585701/F1_drivers_against_Ecclestone_wall_proposal/I literally cannot wait for the day he's gone. |
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Post by MartinT on Oct 28, 2016 13:15:18 GMT
The original poison dwarf.
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Post by pre65 on Oct 29, 2016 10:15:24 GMT
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Post by robbiegong on Oct 29, 2016 10:23:21 GMT
If the F1 powers actually listened to the drivers ideas that would be a good start. The drivers want more speed and excitement too but obviously in a sensible way, not the mad 'death race' ideas Bernie comes out with.
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Post by speedysteve on Oct 29, 2016 17:18:35 GMT
EJ is there in México Martin  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2016 23:22:22 GMT
Another great Pole lap by Lewis Hamilton today. Shame Rosberg managed to get 2nd, he was looking at 4th or 5th for the majority of Q1 - Q3 until he pulled something out the bag!
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Post by MartinT on Oct 29, 2016 23:38:56 GMT
EJ is there in México Martin Not on my channel he isn't!! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2016 8:12:14 GMT
Just trying to figure out between Bernie and EJ, which Dwarf would be "Dopey"?
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