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Post by Guest on Nov 18, 2015 14:53:37 GMT
The one I linked to is better than the blue Julian ( IMO of course )  I have lengths of both Julian and preferred the blue, but in a different system...etc etc. |
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Post by julesd68 on Nov 19, 2015 12:13:28 GMT
Well that was an interesting experiment! I've compared the 6mm VD blue to Talk 3 using Fleetwood Mac's 'Angel' as a test track as it's very well recorded and has a really punchy bass guitar line. Results were obvious to me. The Talk 3 in my system is far superior. Ironically it has better bass weight and rhythm; dare I say it, as I hate cliches, the more 'musical' and engaging performer all round. In comparison the VD felt a little sterile and shut in. Switching back to the Talk 3 again, it was as though the system sprang to life again. I am quite happy with the results of this, as the Talk 3 is much easier to snake around my system as well. Just goes to show that size isn't always better ....  |
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Post by ChrisB on Nov 19, 2015 12:34:18 GMT
It sounds like it was worth doing the experiment though Jules?
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Post by julesd68 on Nov 19, 2015 12:41:05 GMT
Absolutely Chris!
My next project will be getting my Tannoy crossovers refurbed - that's my priority for now.
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Post by ChrisB on Nov 19, 2015 12:45:45 GMT
Careful with that, the cost can run away without you noticing!
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Post by julesd68 on Nov 19, 2015 12:50:54 GMT
hmmm ...indeed - thankfully there are plenty of options at various price levels with Paul @ RFC.
Given that they are now 40 years old I think even a basic refurb will be of benefit. I won't be having external x-overs cased in burr walnut sadly.
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Post by brian2957 on Nov 19, 2015 13:44:05 GMT
Interesting Julian . You would have thought that the 6mm cable would have better bass at least . Just goes to show what a good cable the Talk 3 is .  |
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Post by brian2957 on Nov 19, 2015 13:48:38 GMT
hmmm ...indeed - thankfully there are plenty of options at various price levels with Paul @ RFC. Given that they are now 40 years old I think even a basic refurb will be of benefit. I won't be having external x-overs cased in burr walnut sadly. Why not , aren't you a fan of this type of wood then Julian  I'm more of a stained pine man meself Only kiddin Paul , your work is absolutely beautiful , if the JBLs I saw at NEBO last weekend are anything to go by . |
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Post by julesd68 on Nov 19, 2015 13:55:40 GMT
I love burr walnut - I'm a sucker for a nice bit of timber / veneer ...
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Post by MikeMusic on Nov 19, 2015 15:39:09 GMT
Late to this thread....
Excuse the left field approach
Biggest bass improvers in my system were the PS Audio P10 and mains cables, first Ultimates and latterly Coherent
The differences I hear still seems bonkers
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2015 17:12:52 GMT
Isn't the exposure speaker cable the same as Talk 3.1, Linn K20 and NAIM NACA4?
Or were there two exposure speaker cables?
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Post by brian2957 on Nov 19, 2015 17:25:53 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2015 17:44:51 GMT
Yep - agreed. I have both.
I now have no idea where I got my reference to the "exposure speaker" cable from?
Sleep deprivation kicking in, maybe?
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Post by brian2957 on Nov 19, 2015 17:58:07 GMT
Never mate . Now who on earth could be depriving you of your sleep I think I read somewhere that Talk 3.1 was the same as the cables you have mentioned . I thought that you were suggesting that Talk 3 and 3.1 were similar . My mistake  |
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Post by julesd68 on Nov 19, 2015 18:19:50 GMT
Biggest bass improvers in my system were the PS Audio P10 and mains cables, first Ultimates and latterly Coherent Which components use these cables now Mike? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2015 18:33:42 GMT
Isn't the exposure speaker cable the same as Talk 3.1, Linn K20 and NAIM NACA4? Or were there two exposure speaker cables? Original Exposure speaker cable was similar construction to NACA4 and K20 but it wasn't the same. It had larger stiffer strands and a tougher outer sheath. It was a very good cable but I slightly preferred K20. K20 and NAC A4 were supposed to be the same but the outer skin was still different and they still sounded different. I've had both cables a good few times over the years and I have always preferred K20. Incidentally, K20 itself changed slightly at one stage. It retained its geometry and outer sheath but the strand count dropped slightly and the strands themselves thickened slightly. This was documented in a mag back in the day. |
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Post by ChrisB on Nov 19, 2015 18:50:35 GMT
I'm so glad you didn't stay up all night counting strands Andrew!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2015 19:01:31 GMT
I was almost as nerdy back then. I bought some of the new stuff and sat poking at the strands to see if I could detect a difference |
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Post by ynwan on Nov 20, 2015 7:47:06 GMT
I recommend you compare the cables again after you have had your forty year old crossovers refurbished.
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Post by MikeMusic on Nov 20, 2015 9:06:52 GMT
Biggest bass improvers in my system were the PS Audio P10 and mains cables, first Ultimates and latterly Coherent Which components use these cables now Mike? All are fed by the P10 Coherent cables into the P10, Chord Power Amp, Pass Pre Amp, Isis CD |
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