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Post by danielquinn on Jul 10, 2014 13:48:33 GMT
If you qualify a truism to be applicable to only a certain area - ie hifi not health , it is no longer a truism . you said "Different strokes for different folks is a rare trueism." It is in fact not a truism but a trite sentence of limited applicability . I rest my case and pedantry .
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2014 13:52:40 GMT
If you qualify a truism to be applicable to only a certain area - ie hifi not health , it is no longer a truism . you said "Different strokes for different folks is a rare trueism." It is in fact not a truism but a trite sentence of limited applicability . I rest my case and pedantry . Pseuds corner stuff I fear
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Post by danielquinn on Jul 10, 2014 13:59:53 GMT
If you qualify a truism to be applicable to only a certain area - ie hifi not health , it is no longer a truism . you said "Different strokes for different folks is a rare trueism." It is in fact not a truism but a trite sentence of limited applicability . I rest my case and pedantry . Pseuds corner stuff I fear Bloody hell that was easy , call yourself a friend of pinkies .
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Post by Eduardo Wobblechops on Jul 10, 2014 15:14:22 GMT
Richard, bear in mind the Lowthers will take a loooong time to break in - hundreds of hours...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2014 15:18:12 GMT
Richard, bear in mind the Lowthers will take a loooong time to break in - hundreds of hours... But that means he will have to play lots of music on them. Bad problem to have
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Post by pinkie on Jul 10, 2014 15:22:54 GMT
Richard, bear in mind the Lowthers will take a loooong time to break in - hundreds of hours... Lowther claim they "sweeten" over the first 50 hours, but there are all sorts of claims for these things. Undoubtedly they run in a bit, but they are a bloody site better cold than the Audio Nirvana drivers were. And one of them was made in 2008 - It's only the right channel that's "new" We'll see
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Post by Eduardo Wobblechops on Jul 10, 2014 15:32:47 GMT
Do you notice any difference between the channels?
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Post by pinkie on Jul 10, 2014 15:36:57 GMT
I haven't yet sat and listened to one as opposed to the other. They are playing as a pair, and I am not aware of anything. I think it mainly affects the bass (according to Lowther) - which gradually loosens up and becomes freer. Being less directional, one channel maybe masks the other. Certainly, if nobody told you - I don't think you'd know.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2014 15:50:48 GMT
So which speakers are you taking to France? They'll be no room left in the house at this rate.
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Post by MartinT on Jul 10, 2014 16:25:13 GMT
It also warned that they needed to be switched on with the volume at zero for at least 5 minutes before playing music. I've been scratching my head over this. What exactly does it accomplish for a non-powered speaker? What does it even mean?
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Post by pinkie on Jul 10, 2014 16:30:06 GMT
It also warned that they needed to be switched on with the volume at zero for at least 5 minutes before playing music. I've been scratching my head over this. What exactly does it accomplish for a non-powered speaker? What does it even mean? Actually, they are so bloody sensitive, they hiss when you get your ear up close to them - even with my reduced input gain on the Quad, and no gain from the Pip - so there is a current flowing Allegedly it allows the voice coils to warm up before they suffer active combat playing music. This apparantly extends their life. The dud one I had almost certainly had a broken voice coil, which can't be effectively repaired by soldering - and the only option is a "new for old" trade in. The standard voice coils are aluminium wire. I think the silver wired alternatives are capable of a slightly more effective repair. Just doin' as I'm told!
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Post by pinkie on Jul 10, 2014 16:31:09 GMT
So which speakers are you taking to France? They'll be no room left in the house at this rate. Yes. Good question. I am still milking the kitchen makeover for all its worth. All 3??
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Post by Pinch on Jul 10, 2014 16:37:12 GMT
If you qualify a truism to be applicable to only a certain area - ie hifi not health , it is no longer a truism . you said "Different strokes for different folks is a rare trueism." It is in fact not a truism but a trite sentence of limited applicability . I rest my case and pedantry . Okay DQ, I'm only doing this because I suspect you enjoy it The expression 'Different strokes for different folks', does not entail that there are no right or wrong ways of doing things. It simply refers to the fact that different people like different things (in its original use, 'strokes' referred to peoples sexual preferences), which is a truism if ever I heard one, though I agree that it is indeed trite (indeed, truisms are, by definition, trite). This is perfectly consistent with there being better or worse ways of doing things - people may prefer to do things in ways which are suboptimal in all sorts of other respects - so your heart condition case is hardly a counterexample. Anyway, apologies to everyone for the off-topic post.
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Post by MartinT on Jul 10, 2014 16:39:22 GMT
they hiss when you get your ear up close to them Ah, ok, just using system noise to prepare them for use. It would have a tiny centering effect, too.
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Post by danielquinn on Jul 10, 2014 17:17:42 GMT
Pinch. Your admirable defence bestows upon gus a nuance he doesn't deserve. My pedantry was aimed at the intended meaning of gus' s post which I took to mean their should be less scrutiny of opinion on hifi fora cause it s all about opinionThe success or otherwise of my retort is dependant on the correct interpretation of the meaning of the post as define by him not on the correct entomological meaning. I follow the frankfurt School of critical theory. Always critique on your interlocutors own terms and meaning. P's. Posting on a train after 3 pints. So brief and bored of correcting.
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Post by Pinch on Jul 10, 2014 17:29:41 GMT
I follow the frankfurt School of critical theory. Always critique on your interlocutors own terms and meaning. Ah! That explains it. I'm more one for the Principle of Charity
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Post by pinkie on Jul 10, 2014 17:50:27 GMT
Inspired suggestion Steadman. The Lowthers are now the kitchen monitors while I cook the pilaf (not before having to solder the other end (speaker cable terminals) of the internal wiring. Sheeze! Being driven by a Nad 3020 with the volume control at less than 1 - loud! Lovely!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2014 18:59:34 GMT
They don't look big at all in there. Imagine how twee they will look in the average French room
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Post by pinkie on Jul 11, 2014 7:51:05 GMT
They don't look big at all in there. Imagine how twee they will look in the average French room Trouble is Gordon we are looking at a house we love with small rooms. Is HiFi everything? These Lowthers really demonstrate the merits of a sensitive speaker though. In a poor situation, with a poor CD player, they may not be "audiophile perfection" (whatever that is) but they fill the room with rich, warm, live, real music, and the Nad is hardly at 1/20th throttle (20 watt amp!!). I suspect the bloody thing is in class A! Really impressed - I think that was my Bromley experience all those years ago. I will try to hang on to them as a patio set, but Mrs S had a steely look in her eye. I simply couldn't believe the wiring again. This guy must have spent at least £1000 to have the cabinets properly made - you can tell that whilst not works of art they are competently made by a man with the right machines. He spends all that money on the cabinets, and then screws in cheap drivers with self tappers, and loops the cables onto them loose. The kitchen system has bare wires on the speakers (don't tell the rest of the forum) so I unscrewed the terminals to poke the wire through the hole and one terminal on the Lowther unscrewed internally and I had an ominous "chink" as the nut fell off. A pig to get the nut out with a hoover, I then find that the cables are again looped through the terminals for the speaker plugs. Not crimped - loose looped so you can slide them up and down. They have now been soldered! But great sounding speakers with a very modest amp.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2014 8:14:37 GMT
They don't look big at all in there. Imagine how twee they will look in the average French room Trouble is Gordon we are looking at a house we love with small rooms. Is HiFi everything? Is this a serious question
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