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Roon
Sept 5, 2015 9:47:24 GMT
Post by ChrisB on Sept 5, 2015 9:47:24 GMT
I was interested by this article on the Tone Audio website. It's streaming software that was developed by the people who launched the Sooloos device (and subsequently flogged it to Meridian). Though pricey, it looks to be incredibly versatile.
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Roon
Sept 5, 2015 12:09:32 GMT
Post by Stratmangler on Sept 5, 2015 12:09:32 GMT
The aspect of Roon that is quite interesting is the curator behaviour it exhibits, and that it does it automatically. It saves all that tiresome hunting around on Google, or God forbid, actually having some kind of knowledge of your favourite artists and their alliances with other artists. You know the kind of thing I'm on about.
Without Googling it, what links Deep Purple with Pat Travers, and Pat Travers with Iron Maiden?
It's possible to set up those kind of connections with file tagging, but it's quite laborious. So Roon brings the luxury of not having to apply yourself to the fore.
It's pricey, and I'll guarantee that someone will rave about it.
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Roon
Sept 5, 2015 13:40:15 GMT
Post by Stratmangler on Sept 5, 2015 13:40:15 GMT
Without Googling it, what links Deep Purple with Pat Travers, and Pat Travers with Iron Maiden? No takers?
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Roon
Sept 5, 2015 16:54:44 GMT
Post by ChrisB on Sept 5, 2015 16:54:44 GMT
I can answer the first part of your question, but I'd rather not think too much about Iron Maiden if that's okay with you?!
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Roon
Sept 5, 2015 17:09:21 GMT
Post by Stratmangler on Sept 5, 2015 17:09:21 GMT
Well do the first bit then. The Iron Maiden link is drummer, Nicko McBrain was in Pat Travers band for the Makin' Magic and Putting It Straight albums. Nicko has been occupying the drum stool with Maiden for a very long time now (since 1984 if I'm not mistaken).
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Roon
Sept 5, 2015 18:04:15 GMT
Post by ChrisB on Sept 5, 2015 18:04:15 GMT
Pat Thrall was in the Pat Travers Band. He played with Glenn Hughes in Hughes/Thrall. Glenn Hughes was in Deep Purple (along with a hairdresser from Redcar).
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Roon
Sept 5, 2015 18:10:58 GMT
Post by Stratmangler on Sept 5, 2015 18:10:58 GMT
Glenn Hughes also sang on "Stevie".
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Roon
Sept 5, 2015 20:33:40 GMT
Post by ChrisB on Sept 5, 2015 20:33:40 GMT
Well you have to get your knowledge from somewhere!
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Roon
Sept 5, 2015 20:55:59 GMT
Post by Stratmangler on Sept 5, 2015 20:55:59 GMT
Well you have to get your knowledge from somewhere! Like you I grew up reading album sleeves and building up a working knowledge of who played what with whom. That working knowledge still does me well. Google is useful. Having information casually dropped in your lap just because the machine does it for you devalues that information, even if you do use Google to find out the same information. At least if you've sought it out yourself it has greater personal value.
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Roon
Sept 11, 2015 11:25:25 GMT
Post by MartinT on Sept 11, 2015 11:25:25 GMT
Wikipedia is by far my favourite reference for groups and members. It doesn't have very obscure groups but otherwise it's excellent.
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Post by petea on Feb 24, 2020 15:32:19 GMT
A long dormant thread I see, but I thought it might be worth resurrecting. I have always been tempted to give Roon a try and am considering setting up an Intel NUC with Roon ROCK on it. I would use it within the network though and use the NDX2 as an endpoint and would still serve High Res. files from the Fidata server I suspect. I'm more interested in the searching and linking that Roon can provide. Meeting up with Steve and him playing some stuff with overlaps to artists I like has prompted this resurgence of my interest.
Any thoughts? Is anyone a user?
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Roon
Feb 24, 2020 15:54:21 GMT
Post by Slinger on Feb 24, 2020 15:54:21 GMT
I don't think it handles Spotify, and the price has risen to $119 pa or $699 for a lifetime membership/ownership/whatever.
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Roon
Feb 24, 2020 17:46:35 GMT
Post by petea on Feb 24, 2020 17:46:35 GMT
Yes, I saw the price increase and their justification etc, especially for the original 'bargain' lifetime license - early revenue generation. If it gives the added value I hope to see then I don't mind the price and lack of support for Spotify is not a problem for me as I do not use it; Tidal and Qobuz are supported though.
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Roon
Feb 24, 2020 18:11:25 GMT
Post by Slinger on Feb 24, 2020 18:11:25 GMT
I suppose I've "grown up" with Volumio, so it seems an awful lot of money for something that can be had for free, and that handles Spotify along with Tidal and Qobuz.
Mind you, my original choice for a front end was Rune. I still prefer the interface for the way I use the software - no streaming, just data stored on two NAS drives - but sadly the development was (and still is from the looks of it) moving at roughly the pace of a tired sloth... in a vat of treacle... wearing lead boots. I'm even more glad now, having discovered the tinker board, as Rune is only compatible up to the Pi3. No Pi4 support and no ATB support yet.
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Roon
Feb 24, 2020 18:23:03 GMT
via mobile
Post by John on Feb 24, 2020 18:23:03 GMT
I think it the best interface I have used in terms of how everything links in. I am with Paul a bit too costly for me, but I see why people like it
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Roon
Feb 24, 2020 19:05:07 GMT
Post by petea on Feb 24, 2020 19:05:07 GMT
I think it is the way is assimilates meta-data and links that I find most attractive. You know the, the bassist also played with this person and the produced did such-and-such sort of stuff.
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Roon
Feb 24, 2020 19:24:34 GMT
Post by Tim on Feb 24, 2020 19:24:34 GMT
Definitely the best UI out there, especially if you miss album details about who did what, where and with whom. It's unrivalled to my knowledge.
One day I'll build a NUC Roon Rock, but my only reservation about Roon is I like to tinker with metadata and have things a certain way, as in JRiver, which I can't do with Roon. I like to scrobble my listening habits to Last.fm and Roon can cock it up regarding metadata (or at least it used to). But when I kick my OCD tendencies in wanting complete control, then I'll buy a lifetime licence. Should have got one really when it was $599. . . . doh
So I think it's really good and for what it offers good value, assuming it doesn't fold the year after you shell out $699 - that's another slight reservation, longevity.
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Roon
Feb 24, 2020 19:35:52 GMT
Post by petea on Feb 24, 2020 19:35:52 GMT
Yes, longevity is a worry. They claim that, in the event, they would park the 'engine' on a public server to keep running, but I doubt that would be sustainable in the long-run. I assume that it reads the meta-data of local files and makes links from them and online sources, but I have no experience so...
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Roon
Feb 24, 2020 19:49:02 GMT
Post by Tim on Feb 24, 2020 19:49:02 GMT
I assume that it reads the meta-data of local files and makes links from them and online sources, but I have no experience so... Yes, or that's what it used to do, not tried it for sometime. You can't alter it yourself within Roon (like JRiver) and if they have it wrong the other end, then for someone like me who uses Last.fm, it can report wrong song/artist information. Double albums and classical were sometimes quirky too. Anomalies can pop up in your library too. These can be fixed of course using Mp3tag, but it can be laborious as your shooting at a moving target and not really sure what you're aiming at.
Of course for 99% of people that would be something they wouldn't probably realise, yet alone be concerned about . . . . it's not easy being OCD!
Just Google Roon metadata errors if you want to know more?
I still like it though, just not ready to migrate away from JRiver, as it handles my movie library as well as my FLAC files and it just works.
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Roon
Feb 24, 2020 19:52:35 GMT
Post by MartinT on Feb 24, 2020 19:52:35 GMT
Imagine Jerry's annoyance at Tidal scrambling the track order of a classical album or mine at Qobuz missing the first track of an album!
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