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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2015 18:58:08 GMT
O god im out of here bye bye. Boring as hell anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2015 19:07:19 GMT
Jez I would ditch the very cheap idea and very expensive. Also no SMPS please and preferably a proper toroidal PS. This can be done for around £800 which sold direct should be at least as good as £1500 product from retailers. Frankly the market for really expensive stages is minute and buyers will go for the known hi end brands that are well marketed. Look at what Richard Dunn offers to get an idea. Even his models have a small market potential - but he likes it that way.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2015 19:21:33 GMT
Jez I would ditch the very cheap idea and very expensive. Also no SMPS please and preferably a proper toroidal PS. This can be done for around £800 which sold direct should be at least as good as £1500 product from retailers. Frankly the market for really expensive stages is minute and buyers will go for the known hi end brands that are well marketed. Look at what Richard Dunn offers to get an idea. Even his models have a small market potential - but he likes it that way. It probably will be SMPS and wall wart. I'd rather not as it's loads simpler to use a non SMPS but it's just too expensive. When done properly there is no degradation to the sound. Another of my many quirks is I do what I know to be right, not what the latest market fad happens to be. Nothing here aimed at you personally but I'm not having people who don't even know anything about electronics telling me what sort of power supply to use etc etc....  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2015 19:22:19 GMT
O god im out of here bye bye. Boring as hell anyway. Thanks for letting us know... that was most helpful.... |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2015 20:12:25 GMT
O god im out of here bye bye. Boring as hell anyway. Where did that come from? I've read the thread and just don't get it? Has it been edited? I've been busy all day so haven't kept up. |
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Post by ChrisB on Jul 7, 2015 20:41:25 GMT
No it hasn't been edited.
Andre does things like that from time to time.
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Post by pinkie on Jul 8, 2015 6:46:44 GMT
Ha - you have to laugh. I was about to add ... and wait until the design is tested, finished and launched, for the forum experts to start telling you how to change it to get a better flavour and the PR department of the IMF (International Monitoring Forum) beats me to it, on behalf of its owner, without even waiting for it to be launched It is one of the rare situations where I would follow Arthurs example, and tell em all to f*** F*** fade away  As for SMPS - it isn't like Benchmark couldn't afford linear, hadn't the technical expertise to design linear, or were indifferent to what the pro market they supply would think of its performance  |
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Post by Dave on Jul 9, 2015 10:31:43 GMT
Just a thought Jez: How about initially offering the product as a kit thus allowing the customer to chose their own enclosure, then, if sales ramp up it would put you in a better position to offer the finished article at a later date.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2015 15:47:27 GMT
Just a thought Jez: How about initially offering the product as a kit thus allowing the customer to chose their own enclosure, then, if sales ramp up it would put you in a better position to offer the finished article at a later date. I can't see that working. it would have to be either a kit or a finished article but couldn't move from one to another easily. |
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Post by Dave on Jul 9, 2015 16:12:28 GMT
Shame that as it would elegantly address the financial situation for all concerned  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2015 16:18:20 GMT
A possibility is to offer two casework options so people can get the amp for say £900 or £1400. The only difference would be the casework. That's the kind of amount I reckon it would be to get really tasty casework on a one off basis. The customer can then decide.... Many of the things I'm putting forward here are just me "thinking out loud" of course so absolutely nothing is set in stone. I guess I'm not the average hi fi enthusiast in many ways... I just don't "get" all this preoccupation with appearance, taking and viewing photos of hi fi even!, removing even a finger print from the shiny casework... I'm afraid "sad" is the word that comes to my mind PS is it normal to have to post a message and then immediately edit it in order to add smiley's, bold, underline etc? I only get those options when editing. |
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Post by Dave on Jul 9, 2015 16:38:34 GMT
A possibility is to offer two casework options so people can get the amp for say £900 or £1400. The only difference would be the casework. That's the kind of amount I reckon it would be to get really tasty casework on a one off basis. The customer can then decide.... Many of the things I'm putting forward here are just me "thinking out loud" of course so absolutely nothing is set in stone. I guess I'm not the average hi fi enthusiast in many ways... I just don't "get" all this preoccupation with appearance, taking and viewing photos of hi fi even!, removing even a finger print from the shiny casework... I'm afraid "sad" is the word that comes to my mind PS is it normal to have to post a message and then immediately edit it in order to add smiley's, bold, underline etc? I only get those options when editing.Click on 'Reply' up in the top, right hand corner of the text box for full text editing options Jez |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2015 17:56:45 GMT
A possibility is to offer two casework options so people can get the amp for say £900 or £1400. The only difference would be the casework. That's the kind of amount I reckon it would be to get really tasty casework on a one off basis. The customer can then decide.... Many of the things I'm putting forward here are just me "thinking out loud" of course so absolutely nothing is set in stone. I guess I'm not the average hi fi enthusiast in many ways... I just don't "get" all this preoccupation with appearance, taking and viewing photos of hi fi even!, removing even a finger print from the shiny casework... I'm afraid "sad" is the word that comes to my mind PS is it normal to have to post a message and then immediately edit it in order to add smiley's, bold, underline etc? I only get those options when editing.Click on 'Reply' up in the top, right hand corner of the text box for full text editing options Jez Ah yes... obviously.. doh! |
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Post by Dave on Jul 9, 2015 18:05:24 GMT
Why they didn't place both buttons adjacent to each other beats me ^^
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Post by julesd68 on Jul 9, 2015 18:39:18 GMT
A possibility is to offer two casework options so people can get the amp for say £900 or £1400. The only difference would be the casework. That's the kind of amount I reckon it would be to get really tasty casework on a one off basis. The customer can then decide.... Many of the things I'm putting forward here are just me "thinking out loud" of course so absolutely nothing is set in stone. I guess I'm not the average hi fi enthusiast in many ways... I just don't "get" all this preoccupation with appearance, taking and viewing photos of hi fi even!, removing even a finger print from the shiny casework... I'm afraid "sad" is the word that comes to my mind I don't think the 'average' hi fi punter is totally obsessed with appearance, but most want a certain standard ... Glenn Croft manages to shift a good deal of units without being over preoccupied with the appearance of his products. For me, in terms of cases they are just about the minimum you can get away with - very simple and unflashy but innoffensive ... But of course it's up to you whether you want to cater for people for whom appearance is important, whether you think they or sad or not, as they are surely a potential customer ... |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2015 18:55:07 GMT
A possibility is to offer two casework options so people can get the amp for say £900 or £1400. The only difference would be the casework. That's the kind of amount I reckon it would be to get really tasty casework on a one off basis. The customer can then decide.... Many of the things I'm putting forward here are just me "thinking out loud" of course so absolutely nothing is set in stone. I guess I'm not the average hi fi enthusiast in many ways... I just don't "get" all this preoccupation with appearance, taking and viewing photos of hi fi even!, removing even a finger print from the shiny casework... I'm afraid "sad" is the word that comes to my mind I don't think the 'average' hi fi punter is totally obsessed with appearance, but most want a certain standard ... Glenn Croft manages to shift a good deal of units without being over preoccupied with the appearance of his products. For me, in terms of cases they are just about the minimum you can get away with - very simple and unflashy but innoffensive ... But of course it's up to you whether you want to cater for people for whom appearance is important, whether you think they or sad or not, as they are surely a potential customer ... We're all different of course but to me hifi is a means to an end. It's always struck me as odd the way some folks obsess about styling and even reject any second-hand unit if it has a slight scratch that takes some finding, dust and polish their gear relentlessly etc.... |
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Post by MartinT on Jul 9, 2015 19:29:50 GMT
There is a balance and you don't want to spend half a grand on something that looks like it's been made in a shed. It's not equivalent to being 'obsessed' about appearances, more about the overall satisfaction and pride of ownership. For me personally, I have no qualms about buying used and have done so in the past, but then again it's nice to take the wrappers off something new. Thus the price differential.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2015 20:28:26 GMT
Casework doesn't always have to be expensive to be cool. I always love the Michell ISO in its transparent acrylic case. Albarry too were nicely "dressed". Some of the cases made in China these days look really well finished for not a lot of dosh too.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2015 20:37:58 GMT
Casework doesn't always have to be expensive to be cool. I always love the Michell ISO in its transparent acrylic case. Albarry too were nicely "dressed". Some of the cases made in China these days look really well finished for not a lot of dosh too.Yeah that's the most likely compromise. |
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Post by MartinT on Jul 9, 2015 21:03:14 GMT
There seems to be some rather good looking but inexpensive casework coming from China these days? ...as I pointed out here. |
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