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Post by Greg on Mar 11, 2015 20:36:59 GMT
I think we have to wait for the findings of the investigation, but have no sympathy for JC if did punch someone. It would be in all places of work a serious offence Yep, but for JC to be disciplined, there would need to be a formal complaint from an alleged victim and at present, whether or not an assault actually occurred and the alleged victim has made such a complaint is not exposed. Furthermore in response to an earlier post, the Police and the CPS are powerless in this case unless the alleged victim directly complains to them. They have no alternative authority as the alleged incident happened in a private place and can only act on a formal complaint from the alleged victim. I said previously the money would be the decider. Already today the BBC CEO has acknowledged that to be a consideration in the case. JC's BBC contract runs out in less than a month. You can be sure all the other TV companies are currently bombarding him, and probably his side kicks with mega contract offers. It's going to be interesting how this works out. |
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Post by John on Mar 11, 2015 20:46:36 GMT
JC will not be without job offers that is for sure
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Post by MartinT on Mar 11, 2015 21:01:26 GMT
Yes, agreed John. He now appears to be apologising in news clips I've just watched.
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Post by Greg on Mar 11, 2015 21:10:42 GMT
The latest is David Cameron has publically expressed a view that his kids will be devistated if Clarkson goes. Makes me sick. Why can't politicians stick to commenting on issues they are elected to deal with even if they do that often in significant ignorance? This Cameron comment just goes to further ingrain my total lack of disalusionment and respect for our MP's and the government per se. Doesn't matter what party it is, they are all out of touch with the electorate and operate in a system that is isolated from the needs of our nation. I want to print something offensive but I will refrain!
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Post by MartinT on Mar 11, 2015 22:39:16 GMT
Let's steer clear of the politicians, please, otherwise we're in danger of breaking our TAS ethos of avoiding political debate. Keep the focus on Clarkson.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2015 22:53:54 GMT
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Post by julesd68 on Mar 11, 2015 23:03:00 GMT
Maybe it's time to bring back Angie Rippon ...  |
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Post by MartinT on Mar 11, 2015 23:24:29 GMT
Ooh, an Aston Martin Volante? Oh, you mean the girl!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2015 10:38:52 GMT
The big unanswered question is - what are the BBC's contingency plans? In other words, suppose Clarkson were taken ill, or had a car crash etc - what would the BBC do then? They absolutely have to have contingency plans to cover that. So why did they not trigger that and press ahead with the last three shows?
You can bet that ratings would not be effected - everyone would watch the shows just to see what they are like without Clarkson.
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Post by danielquinn on Mar 12, 2015 10:50:40 GMT
BBC charter is up for renewal , the licence fee is politically sensitive and it is said to have had its day .One of the problems with the BBC is it current state funding/commercial activities dualism , SKy and ITV consider this to be profoundly unfair , the loss of Clarkson may be political appeasement .
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2015 14:37:17 GMT
One thing that the BBC seem to have missed in this fracas is their contract to supply content to the broadcasters in the 100-ish countries that take the programme. They seem to have left themselves open to legal action arising from an inability to supply content, and consequential losses by broadcasters who have paid for the shows.
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Post by danielquinn on Mar 12, 2015 15:02:49 GMT
there is an awful lot of assumptions in that post , typically sales to the rest of the world are done on series by series basis and sold post completion .
they will not be in any legal difficulties if they sack clarkson .
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2015 17:44:31 GMT
From they guy who Clarkson was supposed to hit, on twitter: Oisin Tymon ➿ @tymonoisin · 17h 17 hours ago Big day tomorrow and I promise all the #BringBackClarkson fans I will tell the enquiry team that Jeremy did not hit me and this will be ok Oisin Tymon ➿ @tymonoisin · 20h 20 hours ago To put things straight,There was a bit of a scuffle and shouting about some sausage rolls Jeremy told me to fuck off that's it Basically Clarkson just being his usual bell end, but nothing more. And finally, it looks like it was Clarkson who blew the whistle on himself www.theguardian.com/media/2015/mar/12/jeremy-clarkson-bbc-bosses-fracas-top-gear-suspension |
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Post by danielquinn on Mar 12, 2015 17:51:12 GMT
Check his bank account now
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Post by Tim on Mar 12, 2015 18:17:22 GMT
Furthermore in response to an earlier post, the Police and the CPS are powerless in this case unless the alleged victim directly complains to them. They have no alternative authority as the alleged incident happened in a private place and can only act on a formal complaint from the alleged victim. Not quite so, there are options available to the CPS to prosecute offenders without a victim's complaint, as long as certain criteria are met. Domestic assault is a classic example and many of these occur in private. |
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Post by pre65 on Mar 12, 2015 18:53:40 GMT
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Post by stanleyb on Mar 12, 2015 20:04:45 GMT
there is an awful lot of assumptions in that post , typically sales to the rest of the world are done on series by series basis and sold post completion . they will not be in any legal difficulties if they sack clarkson . Top Gear is supplied to other countries under a different kind of contract. It is supplied on an episode by episode basis so that it hits the screens around the world at about the same time. The sales itself is of course based on a series of episodes. |
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Post by Chris on Mar 12, 2015 20:31:05 GMT
Should give Guy Martin his job.
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Post by Clive on Mar 12, 2015 22:36:33 GMT
All the talk of police involvement...what is the world coming too? A minor scuffle, quite possibly with no injuries needs the police to get involved? A company, the BBC in this case, can take action if they feel it's required. Anything more is wasting police time, they have better things too do trying to defend vulnerable people.
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Post by Tim on Mar 13, 2015 8:34:23 GMT
Couldn't agree more, if that's all it was. All conjecture anyway as none of us were there, so don't know what really happened. Not his first time at being a violent bully though and if there was more to it, I personally don't think he should get away with it just because he's a popular celebrity. I don't like bullies, especially those that assault people. I'll get my coat  |
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