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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2018 15:37:28 GMT
So sad when you have a small collection of Vinyl from a music you dont really like too much all because of the cost of Records you really want..
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Post by MartinT on Apr 29, 2018 15:39:29 GMT
I really think you need to listen to a good digital headphone solution before you write the idea off. You have no idea how good digital can sound with current equipment. It needn't cost much and it certainly won't look flash, but it'll give you musical happiness. We've made a few suggestions already.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2018 15:46:07 GMT
I really cant Martin. No record player involved. Cutting my nose off to spite my face is the only option really.
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Post by John on Apr 29, 2018 16:03:01 GMT
I just think if you feel that strongly about files then no real chance of being happy with this. In the end you need to find some peace in whatever choice you make
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2018 16:18:21 GMT
John im not moaning im pulling my hair out with frustration..ive even stooped as low as to tried recording files onto audio cassette but i can still tell. lol
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Post by Slinger on Apr 29, 2018 16:22:53 GMT
I've got a horrible feeling that whatever you end up with it's going to be a compromise as far as you're concerned. As an off-the-wall thought, would a record cleaning machine give you less surface noise and make headphones more bearable, do you think?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2018 16:26:15 GMT
Slinger its not about noise i just put up with it, Its the cost of the records i want.
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Post by pre65 on Apr 29, 2018 16:53:48 GMT
Slinger its not about noise i just put up with it, Its the cost of the records i want.
You have the same choice with vinyl/digital.
For me, CD is very good with good quality equipment, as is file based music. |
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Post by julesd68 on Apr 29, 2018 17:09:07 GMT
Slinger its not about noise i just put up with it, Its the cost of the records i want. I sympathise but fortunately for me, whilst I'm seriously addicted to buying records, I'm not 'collecting' like some people do. For classical music I'm just not interested in paying crazy money for early Deccas for example when there are perfectly decent later versions. I'm more than happy with the 60's / 70's and early 80's vinyl I can buy for ok prices. For rock and pop, I'm happy with a decent repress of things like Led Zep I - I can't imagine paying four figures to get something with a turquoise label etc If I was more heavily into prog that would be problematic - lots of them haven't been re-released, and when they are sometimes there are just a nasty rip from cd. As for the op question, yes digital is a serious source, but not a serious option for me. The only use for it I have, and it's a very useful one, is listening to stuff on Spoti to see if I want to buy it on vinyl.  |
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Post by liffy99 on Apr 29, 2018 17:14:50 GMT
I think you have summed it up.
Yes, in a way we are being ‘forced’ into the digital world as producers of one sort or another want to control our use and own the means of access to music. Once we are all doomed to pay subscriptions, they can keep raising the costs - just like Sky etc.
If you want to own the physical media that means CDs (plenty out there from pennies to many pounds) or vinyl (same) - oh and tape.
What records do you want that cost hundreds of punds - please give some examples.
As for recording quality and provenance its a minefield. Loads of vinyl records have been recorded in the digital domain and proceseed for analogue. So much depends on the skill of the recording engineers, mastering engineers and dictats of the record companies. Audio quality can be easily compromised by over zealous compression for example which can be present in all music formats.
What exactly is it you dislike about the digital sound ?
I have owned a relatively expensive record deck in the past but moved on to digital many years ago. To my ears it sounds more accurate, free from background noise and distortion.
Yes, i miss the ritual of play8ng a record, handling gatefold sleeves etc but i have succumbed to the convenience of digital too.
Digital is also much cheaper in my opinion for the same or equivalent sound quality.
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Post by julesd68 on Apr 29, 2018 17:20:06 GMT
As for recording quality and provenance its a minefield. Loads of vinyl records have been recorded in the digital domain and proceseed for analogue. So much depends on the skill of the recording engineers, mastering engineers and dictats of the record companies. Audio quality can be easily compromised by over zealous compression for example which can be present in all music formats. All entirely accurate of course but part of me likes the challenge.  I do enjoy researching the best recordings, analogue or digital, via the internet or my reference books. It then makes it all the more satisfying for me when I make a successful purchase! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2018 17:22:20 GMT
Ten off the top of my head. Records are not Bentley cars.. I am not a collector but specialise in one kind of music.
1st issues only , 2nd issues are inferior most times to me & modern Re-issues just sound like CD's on vinyl..
AFFINITY - AFFINITY £1000.00
CRESSIDA £1500.00
CRESSIDA - ASYLUM £700.00
INDIAN SUMMER £300.00
TONTON MACOUTE £300.00
RAW MATERIAL - TIME IS £1500.00 - £2000.00
SPRING - SPRING £1500.00 - £2000.00
Dr Z - THREE PARTS TO MY SOUL £3000.00
GENTLE GIANT - GENTLE GIANT £400.00
APHRODITES CHILD - 666 £400.00
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Post by julesd68 on Apr 29, 2018 17:27:57 GMT
I actually really like my Affinity re-issue on Repertoire, I can listen to it without a problem.
The half-speed mastering has been done very well. For 20 quid great value IMO.
I will buy the two Cressida lps on Repertoire too .. and Andromeda!
Sure I might be happier with a 1st pressing but that ain't going to happen!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2018 18:05:20 GMT
I bought the latest Affinity & Cressida issues but i sent them back.
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Post by julesd68 on Apr 29, 2018 18:13:39 GMT
Did you listen to them first? |
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Post by Chris on Apr 29, 2018 18:17:09 GMT
I don't know how so many of you can be bothered with vinyl!
Digital all the way for me. Convienient and great sound quality. Also a huge library with nothing lying about the house. Playlists made up to suit yourself...
What's not to like
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Post by julesd68 on Apr 29, 2018 18:29:12 GMT
I don't know how so many of you can be bothered with vinyl! It's because you haven't been initiated into the mysteries of the inner sanctum of vinylists, Chris! |
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Post by stanleyb on Apr 29, 2018 19:33:06 GMT
Vinyl is less about the music, but more about the experience. It requires careful though and a diligent process before you finally hear the music through your speakers.
Digital on the other hand is just a click away between tracks.
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Post by MikeMusic on Apr 29, 2018 19:37:51 GMT
Vinyl used to be streets ahead
CD and digital caught up and is now level or ahead on SQ.
Convenience has to be digital.
If you have vinyl, keep it.
If you don't have vinyl don't bother
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Post by liffy99 on Apr 29, 2018 19:39:32 GMT
Then again, i much prefer latex to vinyl. Squeaks less and much easier to clean.
Ooops sorry, wrong forum . . .
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