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Post by John on Jun 19, 2014 4:27:47 GMT
I am thinking of getting a decent pair of headphones but never been totally happy with them I always found I suffered from listening fatigue or lack of engagement I have tried AK701 HD650 with cable upgrade and a few cheaper cables Do not mind going second hand maximum budget 300 Any ideas
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Post by MikeMusic on Jun 19, 2014 8:16:59 GMT
I quite like my Sennheiser RS140s Cordless and pretty good. Can go walking around the garden with them Have some AKGs, forget the model number that weren't quite as good Stopped using them as most of my kit doesn't have a headphone socket !
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Post by ChrisB on Jun 19, 2014 8:21:08 GMT
They've never really been my thing really. I did used to own a pair of Grado 325s that I got to try to get some forensic analysis of recordings. They were great for that but with Grado, people tend to either love or hate them.
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Post by MikeMusic on Jun 19, 2014 16:34:16 GMT
Stopped using them a lot after my Linn/Naim set up arrived. Isobariks too good !
Very useful to be cordless though when you need to wander around
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Post by MartinT on Jun 19, 2014 17:09:41 GMT
I use headphones very infrequently, but I wanted nice circumaural ones (is that the right term for ones that go around the ears, forming a seal?) for occasional travelling, especially on planes. I didn't have a large budget and ended up buying a pair of Superlux HD668B. They sound good, and get even better if you remove the inner padding thus allowing the driver direct access to your ear. For not a lot of money (about £30), it's a lot of headphone and sound quality. Certainly enough for my occasional use.
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Post by The Brookmeister on Jun 21, 2014 8:32:25 GMT
The headphone market seems to be dominated by the big names, apple just bought beats international I do believe or maybe that is old news now. I use HiFi Man myself, I did get some Musical Fidelity ones a few months ago for £100 they were pretty good too. I rarely have time to listen properly which is sad really!
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Post by MartinT on Jun 21, 2014 8:41:23 GMT
Personally I find Beats headphones pretty awful and hugely overpriced. They are clearly aimed at iPod/iPhone users where the audio output is not that great in the first place and they boost the bass. Saying that, they are a world better than the horrible in-ear things you get as standard. Shame that potential buyers don't listen to a pair of Sennheisers or the Superluxes above for comparison.
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Post by The Brookmeister on Jun 21, 2014 8:43:46 GMT
Its all about image with youngsters, they are prepared to accept shitty sound to look cool!
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Post by John on Jun 21, 2014 8:44:03 GMT
I would stay away from Beats just on principle lol
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Post by southall1998 on Jun 27, 2014 11:07:12 GMT
Grado cans are indeed a required taste. Their sound signature is distinctive!
Sometimes I like using my old Grado SR-80's for listening enjoyment. If you like a fast, upfront yet musical presentation, then Grados are ideal.
S.
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Post by Seppi on Jun 29, 2014 6:04:19 GMT
Grado cans are indeed a required taste. Their sound signature is distinctive! Sometimes I like using my old Grado SR-80's for listening enjoyment. If you like a fast, upfront yet musical presentation, then Grados are ideal. S. I also love the Grado sound, I have a pair of SR80i's and would love a pair of speakers which gives me the same addictive sound.
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Post by pinkie on Jun 29, 2014 8:27:20 GMT
Headphones are a really subjective thing like any transducer. You really have to listen to them. I have been mucking about with this for a year or so trying to solve it on the cheap, and I think have reached 2 conclusions 1) Decent headphones need a decent headphone amp (although that surely shouldn't be that hard) 2) Stax electrostatics are hard to beat once you've heard them and less expensive than they appear given that conventional headphones also need an amplifier Personally, having got most of the rest of my system where I want it, I think I am going to stop mucking about and blow whatever it takes on some Stax. I appreciate that fails your £300 budget, but the headphone amplifier factor changes the rules a bit. I tried Grados at Sevenoaks HiFi and they didn't really do it for me. Mind - it was my first venture in modern times, and I naievly made the assumption that the new MDac from Westlake would be similar or better to what I was used to. Having heard that dac a bit more since, I am underwhelmed, and I suspect its integral headphone amp (which is what I listened to the Grado's on) is not that great either. I have tried Bose and Sennheiser, but liked the Beyer DT990's and still do. Very comfortable to wear, they have a rich presentation - and a slightly forward mid response (there is a "Beyer family" lift in the frequency response around 2Khz). We put them up against Stax Sigma, and although the Stax were my clear favourite, the Beyers acquitted themselves very well indeed (and through only a CMOY amp) (We were experimenting with measurements and audition) The cans in question were I plan to take my 990's down to Kevins (wobbly custard or whatever he calls himself) to try on his Graham Slee amp, but Owen also claims he has had good results running his headphones direct of the Pip 2 which has the current to drive them. So as soon as I find time, and summon the courage to modify a Pip 1 chassis to take Pip2 boards, I'm going to try that too - but I expect I will end up spending what it takes on Stax, because I have got the music bug again after borrowing a Dynavector xx20ii , and domestically there is so much more opportunity to listen on cans. (I actually quite like it sometimes in preference to speakers). BTW - are you the John who was going to attend a bake-off with Sovereign? So many familiar faces in new guises PS - the open chassis is a Firebottle moving coil phono stage.
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Post by southall1998 on Jun 29, 2014 12:14:43 GMT
Grado cans are indeed a required taste. Their sound signature is distinctive! Sometimes I like using my old Grado SR-80's for listening enjoyment. If you like a fast, upfront yet musical presentation, then Grados are ideal. S. I also love the Grado sound, I have a pair of SR80i's and would love a pair of speakers which gives me the same addictive sound. What headphone amp are you using ?? S.
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Post by Seppi on Jun 29, 2014 13:59:41 GMT
I also love the Grado sound, I have a pair of SR80i's and would love a pair of speakers which gives me the same addictive sound. What headphone amp are you using ?? S. At the moment none, just an NAD integrated with headphone section but prior an NVA AP10px which I think is exactly what you have. I do sometimes plug them into the iPad but its not ideal.
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Post by southall1998 on Jun 29, 2014 14:23:27 GMT
What headphone amp are you using ?? S. At the moment none, just an NAD integrated with headphone section but prior an NVA AP10px which I think is exactly what you have. I do sometimes plug them into the iPad but its not ideal. Thanks for getting back to me. How did you get on with the Grado/NVA pairing? S.
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Post by Seppi on Jun 29, 2014 16:38:35 GMT
A match made in heaven , I think Grado headphones are the equivalent of Royd speakers - if that makes sense?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2014 14:34:15 GMT
I use a Slee Solo Ultra Linear headphone amp with HD650's and I quite like it. Many manufacturers demo their phones using the Slee amps, so that should say something.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2014 15:48:38 GMT
I use a fairly unusual combination.
Not exactly top of the range but surprisingly musical. Sennheiser HD518 with an old Rogers Ravenbrook amplifier. In fact the amp still sounds pretty damn good driving the little KEF101s - in a small room of course.
I think many of us should get prepared to have to listen on phones more as we get older. I am already reaching the limits of what volume my wife can stand. Mind you, she is second cousin to a bat and is a wee bit sensitive in that area. She complains that I make too much noise switching the lights on!!
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Post by MartinT on Jun 30, 2014 17:08:27 GMT
You're right and I should do it more often, but with visceral speakers on tap and no-one else around I just love the physical engagement. It will come.
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Post by southall1998 on Jun 30, 2014 20:43:20 GMT
A match made in heaven , I think Grado headphones are the equivalent of Royd speakers - if that makes sense? Yes, understood and I agree! S.
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