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Post by John on Oct 12, 2014 19:15:06 GMT
Over the years like many people I have upgraded my system, what for me started as a journey of discovery became a journey of obsession. To me there seems to be no end point in ultimate SQ and the best I can hope for is to be satisfied with what I got. When I look back their been lots of points I thought that I could not take my system any further, only in a year or so time to have discovered something new that has taken the system even further. I joke with a friend that it is like a disease but over the years I do see that addictive push for better SQ.
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Post by MartinT on Oct 12, 2014 19:23:47 GMT
I thought the same, John, that I couldn't really yield much more in SQ without major component changes. Well, this year has proved me wrong and I did extract greatly more performance than I had expected at relatively low cost. I still won't be switching any major components in the near future (at least, I don't plan to) but I'll keep tinkering. It does no harm, it's fun and it never gets in the way of the music.
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Post by John on Oct 12, 2014 19:27:34 GMT
Yes not allowing it to get in the way of music is good
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Post by Sovereign on Oct 12, 2014 19:44:59 GMT
Good question John.
I'm totally passionate about music, it's in me bones. I'm also passionate about HIFI, and the reproduction of music. Over the last couple of years I have caught the DIY bug and I love it, the problem is I have no time for it as I'm an extremely busy person so it can be quite frustrating at the same time. But it's important to have hobbies and passions, we all need to otherwise we are dead inside.
Wow that was quite deep for a Sunday evening ;-)
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Post by John on Oct 12, 2014 19:48:52 GMT
I sometimes wonder where the line between passion and obsession  |
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Post by Sovereign on Oct 12, 2014 19:49:26 GMT
I thought the same, John, that I couldn't really yield much more in SQ without major component changes. Well, this year has proved me wrong and I did extract greatly more performance than I had expected at relatively low cost. I still won't be switching any major components in the near future (at least, I don't plan to) but I'll keep tinkering. It does no harm, it's fun and it never gets in the way of the music. So are you going to tell us of the upgrade or are we to guess ;-) |
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Post by John on Oct 12, 2014 19:50:52 GMT
Read Martin's blog plenty about his recent adventures with isolation cables and fuses
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Post by Tim on Oct 12, 2014 20:06:53 GMT
I sometimes wonder where the line between passion and obsession Others might disagree, but I feel the music is the passion and Hi-Fi the obsession, which is almost exclusively a male trait. I'm a passionate man rather than an obsessive one |
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Post by Pinch on Oct 12, 2014 20:18:27 GMT
I've been at this for, what I imagine, is quite a short period of time - a couple of years - compared to the regulars here, and so I've only really scratched the surface. But my approach so far has been to undertake upgrades with very clear goals in mind - typically, to address bothersome shortcomings in certain aspects of the sound - rather than to improve things just for the sake of it (though I'd love to do this if I had the budget for it!). And at the moment, while I know I could do much better than my present set-up, since there's nothing about the sound that I'm currently getting from any of my sources that actually bothers me, I'm content to (more or less) leave it for now. Once I'm more settled in home and at work - I'm expecting there to be quite a bit upheaval in each of these over the next few years - then I'll make some bigger changes.
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Post by MartinT on Oct 12, 2014 21:29:43 GMT
So are you going to tell us of the upgrade or are we to guess ;-) It's all in my blog, but in summary the upgrades fall into two categories: stands/footers and cables/fuses, with the former making the greatest differences. |
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Post by John on Oct 12, 2014 21:58:08 GMT
I sometimes wonder where the line between passion and obsession Others might disagree, but I feel the music is the passion and Hi-Fi the obsession, which is almost exclusively a male trait. I'm a passionate man rather than an obsessive one  |
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Post by MikeMusic on Oct 13, 2014 7:56:15 GMT
Been thinking about this after listening to well known LPs and CDs.
Yesterday and today was really quite surprising with very well known albums
For not a lot of money some really big improvements
The only question is...
Do these improvements stand on their own or are they part of the overall set up and many other tweaks and improvements. The Holistic Answer ... ?
Either way I'm not going back
My life feels better with so much more music being delivered.
Can't be an other way when it gives you a smile inside and outside
Edit
To answer the question..
I keep thinking the sound can't get any better, or if it does it will be incremental and difficult to hear.
The latest lot of upgrades were somewhere between surprising and astonishing.
WHen does the 80/20 rule kick in ?
Dunno
Do you have to spend a fortune ?
It seems not
A few years ago I would have guessed a sound quality like this would be telephone numbers, £100,000 entry point and keep on going - not so, by any means.
What some manufacturers charge is great for them, not so good for the punters
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Post by zippy on Oct 13, 2014 9:18:13 GMT
The end point is surely when you run out of money.
I can't think of anything else that would stop me!
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Post by MartinT on Oct 13, 2014 12:29:30 GMT
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Post by Tim on Oct 13, 2014 15:13:04 GMT
The end point is surely when you run out of money. Now that's obsession!  |
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Post by julesd68 on Oct 13, 2014 15:54:45 GMT
There's always something you can sell to fund the next upgrade if necessary!
I'm only looking to squeeze the max performance out of what I have at the moment and am not considering a change of components. However, I have only reached this zen like state of mind after many, many years buying and selling key components. I got to a point of being exhausted by it all and saying 'enough is enough' for a number of reasons. But if people enjoy constant change and it isn't a burden on them, why not? There doesn't have to be an end point if you don't want one - tube rolling is a lifetime's work in itself!!
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Post by MikeMusic on Oct 13, 2014 16:23:32 GMT
There is still constant enjoyment in the music for me.
The kit is only a means to that end.
Tiddling around with kit for no gain - on *my* system - is not for me
Academic. Much rather listen to music
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Post by gazjam on Oct 14, 2014 18:50:19 GMT
Digitals been done for a while,Now I've got the mains and the vinyl setup sorted I'm pretty content. |
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Post by tony on Oct 14, 2014 23:05:30 GMT
For me technology moves on and bang for buck we can achieve great music for an affordable prices....this is brought about by forums like this one were members share experience,knowledge and skill only for others to benefit from greater enjoyment of they're music. The generosity and support of the hi-fi community is boundless, hopefully we can encourage the next generation to enjoy music replayed well.
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Post by John on Oct 15, 2014 4:20:59 GMT
Yes good point
It's possible to build a good system without costing a fortune
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