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Post by MikeMusic on Apr 2, 2017 8:16:49 GMT
I like to be well off the leading edge so never installed Vista.
XP was good in it's time and I have computers that run it, not connected to the interweb. They can run for the time being when required. Think we can connect using a free virus package in desperation.
Upgraded a W7 pc to W10 and it buggered. Stan kindly put W7 back on for me. By the time I need a new PC W10 will be ok. Unlikely I will change from W7 until 2020 and may stick with it after that if I can. The boss's quite new pc upgraded from W8 to W10 now runs slower and has never been quite 'right'.
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Post by ChrisB on Apr 2, 2017 8:52:13 GMT
I see both points of view. People generally don't like change. If something is working for them, what's the point in relearning how to use a different version of it every two or three years?
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Post by MartinT on Apr 2, 2017 9:43:13 GMT
W10 is superb when freshly installed, less so when upgraded from an older OS. Using a Microsoft account to keep your docs in OneDrive helps to start again and reinstall everything. You'll only do it once. Some users moan about slowness or crashing, it's invariably upgrading or using old drivers that does it. I have W10 running on a whole host of hardware at work and they are almost all stable. It's driver quality that differentiates them, HP being the worst.
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Post by speedysteve on Apr 2, 2017 11:36:41 GMT
One question about W10 on phone, should Edge pages pinned to start as small tiles, be blank? Making them larger means they display the name of the page, but no pic of the page like there was on W8.1.
There also seems to be some disconnects with copy and paste strategies between apps etc.
Some are long press some give you a clipboard. Was consistent with a circle and clipboard icon in W8.1.
Could all be my beta release though..
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Post by Slinger on Apr 2, 2017 13:00:09 GMT
I fail to see how someone who will sell you every possible upgrade for your hi-fi thinks that a 16 year-old operating system is still the bees knees.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2017 13:35:43 GMT
W10 is superb when freshly installed, less so when upgraded from an older OS. Using a Microsoft account to keep your docs in OneDrive helps to start again and reinstall everything. You'll only do it once. Some users moan about slowness or crashing, it's invariably upgrading or using old drivers that does it. I have W10 running on a whole host of hardware at work and they are almost all stable. It's driver quality that differentiates them, HP being the worst. A newish windows 8.1 machine should upgrade to 10 without any issues. Probably depends on hardware and how messed up 8/8.1 is.
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Post by speedysteve on Apr 2, 2017 14:06:32 GMT
I just had the first Insider programme update of W10 OS on my phone. Let's see if I can tell what the dev boys have been up to
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Post by MartinT on Apr 2, 2017 15:38:10 GMT
A newish windows 8.1 machine should upgrade to 10 without any issues. Probably depends on hardware and how messed up 8/8.1 is. Exactly that. The point being, it's the last install/reinstall you should ever have to do. The old adage of reinstalling an OS once a year, because Windows gets itself into a right state, is no more. W10 has plenty of repair features and is intended to be constantly updated into the future. Do the following and you'll be computing reliably: 1. Update machine specific drivers at least once a year 2. Run cleanmgr.exe once a month, tick all boxes and delete 3. Perform Windows updates once a month 4. Keep your anti-virus scrupulously up to date and run a full scan weekly 5. Make backups of your docs/photos and preferably keep them in the cloud
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Post by MartinT on Apr 2, 2017 15:39:42 GMT
I just had the first Insider programme update of W10 OS on my phone. They've been pretty solid of late.
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Post by stanleyb on Apr 2, 2017 17:41:43 GMT
I am quite happy with Windows 8.1 after configuring it to my own taste. I tried W10, but it brought nothing new to the table as far as my personal requirements are concerned.
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Post by MikeMusic on Apr 3, 2017 11:43:06 GMT
Thought you were on W7 Stan. Did you change up or do I have that wrong ?
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Post by stanleyb on Apr 3, 2017 13:57:52 GMT
My current laptops are all running W8.1. They are Sony Vaio machines with drivers written for W8.1. One of my older audio laptop is on W7 still though.
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Post by Slinger on Apr 3, 2017 14:24:13 GMT
I went straight from W7 to W10. The missus got a W8 laptop and I didn't fancy it at all. My upgrade was uneventful.
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Post by MartinT on Apr 3, 2017 14:48:45 GMT
I didn't mind W8.1 as much as many. However, W10 does do what W8.1 should have been and feels far more integrated, not least with the Metro apps that look and behave more like full applications.
One interesting thing I have discovered: those of us who went through W8/8.1 have learned valuable touch screen gestures that W10 users don't seem to know about, with the result that I can fly around my open apps on my Surface Pro 4 much faster than most users.
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Post by MikeMusic on Apr 3, 2017 16:14:10 GMT
I went straight from W7 to W10. The missus got a W8 laptop and I didn't fancy it at all. My upgrade was uneventful. My *upgrade* was fine. Really easy, just how software should work. I was very happy, for 2 weeks. Then permanent reboot cycles that could only be sorted by a format. Didn't fancy going down the same route with W10 again so went back to W7
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Post by The Brookmeister on Apr 4, 2017 18:08:10 GMT
I fail to see how someone who will sell you every possible upgrade for your hi-fi thinks that a 16 year-old operating system is still the bees knees. I was referring to XP in its day not as a current OS guys, I use Windows 7 DOH! The guy who does my PC maintenance and repairs who I have known for yonks and who repairs 1000's of PC's annually advised this.... Windows 7 pro Had it installed for years, not one single issue. Other PC's I use in various places have 8, 8.1 and now 10, fraught with issues. Hence I think windows 8 onwards is pants. BTW I am using a turntable that was made in 1964, it beat almost all the other decks I have ever heard or used. If its works why change it?
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Post by Slinger on Apr 4, 2017 18:38:24 GMT
I fail to see how someone who will sell you every possible upgrade for your hi-fi thinks that a 16 year-old operating system is still the bees knees. I was referring to XP in its day not as a current OS guys, I use Windows 7 DOH! The guy who does my PC maintenance and repairs who I have known for yonks and who repairs 1000's of PC's annually advised this.... Windows 7 pro Had it installed for years, not one single issue. Other PC's I use in various places have 8, 8.1 and now 10, fraught with issues. Hence I think windows 8 onwards is pants. BTW I am using a turntable that was made in 1964, it beat almost all the other decks I have ever heard or used. If its works why change it? Ah, and now you've changed your post to reflect that. W10's still not shit though. Save
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Post by MartinT on Apr 4, 2017 20:53:31 GMT
Windows 7 pro Had it installed for years, not one single issue. Other PC's I use in various places have 8, 8.1 and now 10, fraught with issues. Hence I think windows 8 onwards is pants. Doesn't reflect my experience, is all I can say. W7 caused a set level of support issues, W8/8.1 was never fully rolled out to all users, W10 is fully rolled out and has generated only 70% of the support issues. Other observations are that OS repairs are more straightforward and we are doing very few deployment re-imagings (reinstallations) of W10. Also the occurrences of malware are down quite a lot, meaning that it is more resistant to infection in the first place.
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Post by pinkie on Apr 6, 2017 18:24:36 GMT
Oh help. My laptop,my primary business tool,running stable reliable Windows 7 is at least 6 years old and needs a scrub down and rebuild. And having ditched my desktop which has a motherboard failure about a year ago
I have bought a new laptop with windows 10 installed. God help me and all who sail in me
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Post by MartinT on Apr 7, 2017 7:19:17 GMT
You'll be fine. Use OneDrive to store all your documents and then, once synchronised, they will be available on the new machine. Then install the applications you need. All tweaking can follow at your leisure.
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