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Post by Clive on Aug 16, 2015 17:09:15 GMT
I believe you can avoid using a password but you won't be on the MS cloud / Store / One Drive etc which sort of defeats some of the advantages of the O/S. If you mean the 'normal' log in then indeed you need only to go into user account settings and as your 'new password' leave it blank, then it won't ask for one. If you mean you've ended up with a bios password so it won't even boot into windows without asking for a password then that's different ! In my opinion it's not at all a bad thing to avoid use of the cloud and I have my Win 10 machines set up for local logon only and I don't use my Microsoft logon/password at all. I meant the microsoft logon. If you don't want to access the Store or One Drive I suggest you're a candidate for staying on W7 until at least 2020. |
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Post by pre65 on Aug 16, 2015 17:58:16 GMT
I don't even know what "the store" or "one drive" are. 
So am I best to stay with Windows 7 ?
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Post by MartinT on Aug 16, 2015 19:04:13 GMT
So am I best to stay with Windows 7 ? No, W7 is getting old now and is no longer as secure as the later operating systems. Since W10 is free to upgrade for the first year, think seriously about it. Find out what The Store and OneDrive are. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2015 20:30:01 GMT
I reserved the upgrade but did not know it was only for a Year! is it for a Year or is it just upgradable free for a year?
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Post by stanleyb on Aug 16, 2015 20:41:06 GMT
I reserved the upgrade but did not know it was only for a Year on that note then i aint going to bother. ill stick with 8.1 There is a trick to get round that. First make a disk image backup with the MS backup program. Then install W10 at some stage and let it run all the extra updates etc. Next you then make another disk image backup, but this one is for W10. Then you restore the old disk image from the first backup. You can then happily stick to w8.1 until you are happy to replace it with the W10 disk image backup. I have tested this on the only PC that I have updated with W10 so far and it works a treat. The backups are actually stored on two separate old drives that I had lying about. So I won't need them for anything else. I put a label on them as well to indicate that they are backups of W7 and W10. |
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Post by MartinT on Aug 17, 2015 0:11:54 GMT
Nice idea, Stan. Apart from a whole load of updates, that should preserve the activation when you 'wake up' the backup.
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Post by MikeMusic on Aug 17, 2015 7:43:37 GMT
Free for a year only ?
I thought it was to be free for it's life
So it is a marketing ploy, much beloved by drug dealers
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Post by Clive on Aug 17, 2015 8:51:02 GMT
Free for a year only ? I thought it was to be free for it's life So it is a marketing ploy, much beloved by drug dealers It's free for life if you take up the offer in the first year. |
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Post by MartinT on Aug 17, 2015 10:46:27 GMT
Mike, it's been well explained already: free for life if you take up the offer within the first year.
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Post by MikeMusic on Aug 17, 2015 14:28:17 GMT
What I thought initially
So No Mad ought to take it up then
Hopefully mine will be working soon
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Post by zippy on Aug 17, 2015 15:27:26 GMT
I don't even know what "the store" or "one drive" are.
So am I best to stay with Windows 7 ? I think for anybody who's in your position, there's no need to be afraid to go to Win10 PROVIDING you have an 'expert' to do the initial setup for you who can create local logons for you if you don't want to create and use a Microsoft logon and remove or disable Onedrive etc. As I mentioned above I have no intention of using apps via the store**, nor of using Onedrive** at the moment but I still think the minor changes for Win10 have made it much better than Windows 7 or 8. (** the store is Microsofts ways of selling you applications, some are in fact free but many are charged for. Onedrive is Microsofts way of 'letting' you store your data in their own vast repositories, instead of locally on your PC - the advantage being that you can access your data from anywhere not just your home PC.) |
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Post by stanleyb on Aug 17, 2015 16:24:01 GMT
Onedrive is Microsofts way of 'letting' you store your data in their own vast repositories, instead of locally on your PC - the advantage being that you can access your data from anywhere not just your home PC.) A more appropriate reformulation of the above would be: The advantage being that the investigation powers to be can then access your data from anywhere without further consent from you, since you have already signed away your rights to MS for that data to be made available if so requested by investigators. |
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Post by MartinT on Aug 17, 2015 18:36:34 GMT
OneDrive is cloud storage, just like DropBox, iCloud, Livedrive etc.
The Store will expand to sell all kinds of applications in due course, not just tile apps as at the moment.
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Post by Greg on Aug 17, 2015 22:56:59 GMT
OK, admittedly I've not read the whole thread so may have missed something said before, but please tell me.......I have upgraded a laptop 7 system and two PC 8.1 systems to 10 and we are happy with the results. In a years time, are we going to be hit with a charge to maintain that computer service and if so, how much will the charge be?
Thanks in anticipation.
Greg
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Post by John on Aug 18, 2015 3:57:50 GMT
No extra charge under those circumstances Greg
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Post by MartinT on Aug 18, 2015 6:15:45 GMT
No Greg, those machines will remain on a free OS.
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Post by Nick on Aug 18, 2015 17:22:31 GMT
Remember just because your paranoid - it doesn't mean they are not out to get you  |
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Post by Nick on Aug 18, 2015 17:24:39 GMT
Oh just for interest One Drive Pro is the only cloud based file sharing system passed by the FCA for use for client sensitive data.
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Post by MartinT on Aug 19, 2015 7:20:37 GMT
Yes, it's part of Microsoft's Azure cloud offering, which is an exceedingly impressive setup around the world.
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Post by Slinger on Aug 26, 2015 17:00:26 GMT
I decided it was about time to sever my ties to the past, so I sucked it up and deleted the Windows.old folder that Win 10 leaves behind when upgrading. I'm now 36Gb of disk space better off.
Just a word of warning for anyone who's thinking about doing the same, follow this procedure from Microsoft. You can't just hit "delete" guys.  |
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