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Post by MartinT on Nov 3, 2023 13:35:41 GMT
Although I consider deep bass mandatory for classical and electronic music, it really does enhance all kinds of music and provides spacial acoustic cues even if the music has no apparent bass content.
Agreed about the Townshend Podiums, they are superb for tightening bass and improving timbre while removing a lot of the overpowering boom and one-note effects.
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Post by John on Nov 3, 2023 14:25:59 GMT
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sub-bassA interesting reference around low bass notes in music Personally I was most happy with the Goldnote (not the last word in bass extension) but suited my needs and room. Rooms are also a factor in system design
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Post by ajski2fly on Nov 3, 2023 14:40:47 GMT
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Post by MartinT on Nov 13, 2023 11:26:44 GMT
No-one has mentioned amplifier electronics yet.
Do you think valves (tubes) or class A, class AB, class D (switching) solid state have particular applications to suit musical preferences, or is it just down to personal choice?
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Post by julesd68 on Nov 13, 2023 12:45:54 GMT
Interesting question - if one is seduced by the likes of the famous Decca (vinyl) glow, I think that is very likely going to be accompanied by tubes for their "midrange magic". I found this somewhat addictive for a while.
A more neutral system with accurate speakers and solid state amps will show up the limitations of these old recordings - my preference nowadays is for really good recent recordings in a system that is as revealing and as accurate as I can make it.
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Post by MartinT on Nov 13, 2023 12:50:30 GMT
Horn speakers offer the unique ability to use quite low power but very high quality amps. The Japanese, with their small rooms, frequently favour this approach with ultra expensive valve amps like the Ongaku driving horn speakers.
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Post by John on Nov 13, 2023 14:14:41 GMT
It is hard to generalise around amplifiers as for example not all valve amplifiers are warm and cuddly. some even have good bass control. So implementation, design etc is also important. Speaker sensitivity will also influence the type of amplifier that can be used. Yet again it is going to be if you want to specialise with regards to sound or have more versatility to the direction you go
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Post by MartinT on Nov 13, 2023 14:58:41 GMT
OK, I'm beginning to spot a pattern here. Could it be true that those who specialise in a group of genres, say classical or jazz, may well be more liable to create an idiosyncratic system designed to excel in their preferred music? Whereas those (like me) who enjoy many different genres tend to create a system that is a good (or excellent) all-rounder?
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Post by MikeMusic on Nov 13, 2023 15:40:19 GMT
I think and hope my TAD system is neutral
Sounds wonderful on my usual fare of modern music and sounds just as good as the small amount of classical and semi classical I listen to
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Post by MartinT on Nov 13, 2023 15:46:43 GMT
For me the arbiter of neutrality is piano and the human voice. What do you use, Mike?
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Post by julesd68 on Nov 13, 2023 16:56:30 GMT
OK, I'm beginning to spot a pattern here. Could it be true that those who specialise in a group of genres, say classical or jazz, may well be more liable to create an idiosyncratic system designed to excel in their preferred music? Whereas those (like me) who enjoy many different genres tend to create a system that is a good (or excellent) all-rounder? If I was just playing classical vinyl I would build a system to play to its strengths - most likely to include a tube phono and amp. If I was streaming classical with all kinds of classical recordings old and new, I would choose a very different system similar to what I have now. So analogue or digital just as important as genre. |
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Post by MartinT on Nov 13, 2023 19:49:13 GMT
Good observation, Jules. Analogue versus digital is another factor that generates endless partisan debate.
For me the choice is determined by my desire to get as close to the unadorned master tape as I possibly can. I choose digital.
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Post by MikeMusic on Nov 13, 2023 19:56:00 GMT
For me the arbiter of neutrality is piano and the human voice. What do you use, Mike? I've improved the system over the years If it sounds good I'm happy A good system must surely do justice for both |
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Post by julesd68 on Nov 14, 2023 15:27:32 GMT
The instrument I am most sensitive to in terms of tone and timbre is solo violin. If that doesn't match what is in my head then I know there is a problem with the system.
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