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Post by MartinT on Sept 22, 2014 3:56:51 GMT
I've told you what happened and declared my opinions unsafe. I only found out about them yesterday. My system has moved on since then and I no longer want to trial interconnects. There is simply nothing more to it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2014 6:18:56 GMT
In chatting with David Brook today, it transpires that he had investigated the SLIC cables I had returned and found that the batch had been mis-wired internally. This certainly would explain the discrepancy between my findings and those of others using the cables. I therefore withdraw all my opinions on them as having been based on faulty product, which seems only fair. Sorry, but (imo) the odour surrounding these cables just gets more and more pungent! You're going to make an about turn on your review and yet aren't going to have a listen to "CORRECTLY MANUFACTURED" versions? IMO Martin is wise to stay away. Obviously suspect QC on part of MCRU or he is making excuses. How do we know if Bev's cables are wired 'correctly' even if she likes the sound. All this just supports what some of us have been saying about fancy cables all along. |
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Post by danielquinn on Sept 22, 2014 10:10:30 GMT
Firstly , you only have MCRU [ the manufacturer] word for this . I am happy for you to accept his word at face value , others may differ.
Secondly , how do you mis-wire a interconnect so it will degrade the sound but still work ?
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Post by canetoad on Sept 22, 2014 10:13:42 GMT
My point is you were told they were assembled incorrectly. That proves nothing.
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Post by MartinT on Sept 22, 2014 12:38:12 GMT
Firstly, I've done a lot of business with DB and I do take him at his word.
Secondly, I made some negative comments about the cables which I retract as they do not represent current production.
Thirdly, of course you can mis-wire a cable that contains a shield (i.e. third conductor) and still have it work electrically.
That's all there is to it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2014 16:11:20 GMT
I am wondering why Dave Brooks did not send you a free replacement cable if he knew the original was faulty. Also what prompted him to dissect a cable just because you prefered an alternative in your system? Also if this was wired up 'wrong' can we trust any reviews on SLIC product?
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Post by Tim on Sept 22, 2014 16:14:40 GMT
. . . Also if this was wired up 'wrong' can we trust any reviews on SLIC product? Maybe the people that like them are 'wired up wrong differently' - at £500 a pop you have to wonder? |
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Post by MartinT on Sept 22, 2014 16:32:34 GMT
I am wondering why Dave Brooks did not send you a free replacement cable if he knew the original was faulty. Also what prompted him to dissect a cable just because you prefered an alternative in your system? Also if this was wired up 'wrong' can we trust any reviews on SLIC product? Because I had returned them. He didn't know they were faulty, he inspected them because he was puzzled at my findings. |
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Post by MartinT on Sept 22, 2014 16:34:59 GMT
Maybe the people that like them are 'wired up wrong differently' - at £500 a pop you have to wonder? My Yannis cables cost between £200 and £350 a set. They're the best interconnects I know. Are you suggesting I must be wired differently, or is there a £450 threshold in your thinking?  |
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Post by brian2957 on Sept 22, 2014 16:51:31 GMT
No Brian, that ship has sailed as I realise that the Yannis cables really suit my system and I've turned my attention elsewhere. Fair enough Martin , the Yannis cables are excellent too . Like you I've found a cable which I'm happy with after a long search . I now just sit back and enjoy the music. |
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Post by Tim on Sept 22, 2014 16:51:56 GMT
Well I know I'm wired differently to a lot of Hi-Fi enthusiasts - all a bit of fun, but this is certainly not a good advert for MCRU Martin.
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Post by MartinT on Sept 22, 2014 16:54:51 GMT
I simply couldn't allow my comments to stand knowing they were based on faulty product.
Ultimately, I always advocate listening for yourself.
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Post by dvh on Sept 22, 2014 16:55:18 GMT
So, the product's fine, but the QC's shite.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2014 18:00:48 GMT
I am wondering why Dave Brooks did not send you a free replacement cable if he knew the original was faulty. Also what prompted him to dissect a cable just because you prefered an alternative in your system? Also if this was wired up 'wrong' can we trust any reviews on SLIC product? Because I had returned them. He didn't know they were faulty, he inspected them because he was puzzled at my findings. Martin I'm still puzzled. Most vendors would just accept they were returned for personal preference reasons not look for a fault on a returned product. Maybe he just can't believe any cable is preferable to SLIC? Once found faulty I'm surprised he didn't insist on you reassessing a replacement pair or are we getting the whole story? This does not stack up with the Brooksy we all know from forums. |
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Post by MartinT on Sept 22, 2014 18:08:23 GMT
The Brooksy I know is a gent and has always treated me well. I wonder if those of you who 'know' him from forums have ever actually dealt with him? I find third party comments about him very telling.
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Post by Marco on Sept 22, 2014 20:06:44 GMT
I’m saying nowt! Marco. |
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Post by gazjam on Sept 22, 2014 20:15:31 GMT
Uhm...
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Post by canetoad on Sept 22, 2014 22:50:51 GMT
I simply couldn't allow my comments to stand knowing they were based on faulty product. Ultimately, I always advocate listening for yourself. Allegedly. I agree that David's service is excellent and second to none! I have experienced it myself. I'm also aware of his aggressive marketing techniques, which I understand (he's a businessman), but sometimes I have my doubts about his agenda. |
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Post by Marco on Sept 23, 2014 9:34:17 GMT
That pretty much sums up my feelings, Bernie, based on extensive experience of dealing with David on many different levels, and overall I do like him and consider that the services he offers are an asset to the audio industry.
It’s the ‘agenda’ bit, however, which taints things somewhat and casts a cloud over the whole Slic fiasco.
Marco.
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Post by pre65 on Sept 23, 2014 16:46:46 GMT
I have a theory. (copyright Ann Elk). 
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