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Post by DaveC on Aug 4, 2014 15:18:06 GMT
HI DQ, Very expensive dust too !!! One of my very finest moments !
But seriously, I'm up for it, on the bench and also in the music room, but my loudspeakers are very easy to drive, so any differences real or imaginary are likely to be diluted ?
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Post by danielquinn on Aug 4, 2014 15:30:15 GMT
Well , you will probably have to rely on a buyer lending you thiers as I don't think the man himself will lend you a set if his words are to be accepted at face value
"Full specification not coming soon, why? Because there is no technical babble, no marketing waffle, features and benefits are simple to describe"
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Post by DaveC on Aug 4, 2014 16:01:44 GMT
My offer is there, someone do the hard work to acquire them, I'll do the hard work measuring !
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Post by MartinT on Aug 4, 2014 16:17:17 GMT
my loudspeakers are very easy to drive Do you still have the Focals, Dave? |
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Post by danielquinn on Aug 4, 2014 16:31:05 GMT
I read in hi Fi world he had 20k wharfedales He may have sold them.
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Post by DaveC on Aug 4, 2014 16:37:38 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 16:39:08 GMT
Exactly, so what would you like measured, be specific please. BTW speech marks emphasise not diminishes words. That's not my understanding of quotation marks. My understanding is that it should be just singles like 'this' to highlight a word. "A quote is just that" a non audiophile was heard to say!! |
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Post by MartinT on Aug 4, 2014 16:49:11 GMT
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Post by danielquinn on Aug 4, 2014 17:27:04 GMT
Silly me and my memory I missed of 5k  |
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Post by ninanina on Aug 4, 2014 18:36:58 GMT
Oh Dave what a shame about the Klipschorns... they are one of my dream speakers... |
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Post by pre65 on Aug 4, 2014 19:13:49 GMT
I have great respect for Peter Comeau both as a designer and hi-fi enthusiast.
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Post by danielquinn on Aug 5, 2014 8:57:12 GMT
I have great respect for Peter Comeau both as a designer and hi-fi enthusiast. Peter J Comeau designed my wharfedales 10.3 which are in the family room and fed by the skybox and a denon amp . I turned them from a trapped in the box uninspiring un-listenable sound to one infinitely better for £35 and five hours work . I did invitie him round to compare and see if he agreed with me but he must not read H/S .  |
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Post by pre65 on Aug 5, 2014 9:09:09 GMT
When What hi-fi tested the 10.3 they said "and if you're committed to floorstanders, you won't go far wrong at the price with the 10.3s.
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So, as with many things in life they were made to a price and an expected performance at that price point.
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Post by danielquinn on Aug 5, 2014 9:25:16 GMT
i paid £80 for them from richer sounds , even at that price they were a bloody disappointment . They are now well good and even graced he hifi room for a while .
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Post by pre65 on Aug 5, 2014 9:31:19 GMT
i paid £80 for them from richer sounds , even at that price they were a bloody disappointment . They are now well good and even graced he hifi room for a while .
Reading the review of those Airedale classic speakers the write-up certainly describes them as very good speakers, not sure about the price though.  |
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Post by pre65 on Aug 5, 2014 15:06:01 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 15:50:30 GMT
So do you feel that L R C measurements will tell you anything other than the cables physical properties?
I have a question for you guys:-
If you take a piece of wire with a cross sectional area of 1.5mm is multi stranded and exactly 1m long (as practicality allows) it is made of copper and uses a dielectric with a strength of say 1Kva.
Then you take another piece of wire with identical L R C characteristics, same cross sectional area, same amount of strands and identical dielectric, same length but a different conductor material.
Can you say they would be sound absolutely identical?
Should they sound the same
Would they sound different, its impossible for them to sound different?
Does just measuring the LRC suffice?
Dependent on voltage and current flowing, close proximity to sensitive signals? or electron pick up radiated emi /rfi, again depending on signal size and amperes?
Would you need an RFI tunnel to really understand what is happening? I only know of two of these outside an education environment
Who cares?
Does the fact whether the fact that people can hear a difference between wire a and wire b really matter?
After all what is happening Gaza / Ukraine / African Ebola outbreak is far more important or going a long way to eradicate cancer. Really puts this subject into perspective.
If cables work for you great, if they don't then great also buy some VDH 4mm and job done, but please FFS give up having a mass-debate of this endless repetitive subject.
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Post by danielquinn on Aug 5, 2014 15:57:55 GMT
Were human , we gotta debate something , otherwise it is just waiting to die . And politics is frowned upon on this forum  |
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Post by MartinT on Aug 5, 2014 16:09:33 GMT
I need to make up some new interconnects, and I'm going to try some Klotz MC5000. When you do, Philip, could you start a new thread please as they may be of more general interest and shouldn't be buried in the SLIC thread? Thanks. |
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Post by pre65 on Aug 5, 2014 16:13:14 GMT
I need to make up some new interconnects, and I'm going to try some Klotz MC5000. When you do, Philip, could you start a new thread please as they may be of more general interest and shouldn't be buried in the SLIC thread? Thanks. Will do Martin. |
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