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Post by chukka on Aug 3, 2014 11:00:21 GMT
very true. I guess it is up to the individual to make the final decision. Having made some cables myself I can understand that a cable can potentially cost hundreds of $/£ per meter. The question is : when does the performance / cost ratio drop off so much that no difference can be heard anymore. For me the art is to get that balance right "peu import" if the price is low or high. edit: of course, the lower the price the artier the cable IMHO.
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Post by Chris on Aug 3, 2014 12:18:43 GMT
Yeah,I know MartinT - I don't agree with any of that either.
Yet again - each to their own though,it's your cash!
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Post by ninanina on Aug 3, 2014 19:28:36 GMT
Did someone somewhere mention a half price, or cut price, SLIC? Or did I imagine it ??
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Post by MartinT on Aug 3, 2014 20:15:17 GMT
It was first mentioned here, Bev.
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Post by danielquinn on Aug 4, 2014 8:38:34 GMT
10 cm @ £50 ? - it seems that SLIC is getting some competition price wise from this place - of all places NVA prices are transparent , price reflects costs of the cable , labour and overheads and the same element built in for reasonable profit . The high price of this cable reflects labour and high raw cable charge .
It is of course available on a money back guarantee
MODERATION: no need to denigrate other products
p.s - Can we stop all this "its up to you how you spend your money nonsense" , its economic appeasement" .
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Post by pre65 on Aug 4, 2014 8:52:45 GMT
Are you now NVA's chief spokesperson ?
If so your post could be termed as shilling.
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Post by danielquinn on Aug 4, 2014 8:56:43 GMT
My post is factual and counter balancing . For all I know the cable could be ineffective or brilliant .
Some of your posts are silly .
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Post by pre65 on Aug 4, 2014 9:04:17 GMT
prices are transparent , price reflects costs of the cable , labour and overheads and the same element built in for reasonable profit . The high price of this cable reflects labour and high raw cable charge .
Could not the same be said for ANY cable manufacturer / supplier ?
And if you do not have intimate knowledge of how OTHER manufacturers work out their prices then your comments are almost libellous.
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Post by MartinT on Aug 4, 2014 9:05:14 GMT
My post is factual and counter balancing . For all I know the cable could be ineffective or brilliant . DQ, your post is fine now that I've removed the needless denigration of another product.
Factual information is always welcome, but beware of being accused of shilling - which I can see that you're not doing. However, others have been very liberal in their fanciful accusations of shilling whereas in fact I know of only one proven case on another forum.
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Post by Marco on Aug 4, 2014 9:06:53 GMT
Hah! It's a journey and you missed out the bit where I made improvements to my system, so what previously sounded good no longer works as well as my older cables. If you're always honest with your findings, then you'll always take the right path. No placebos here! Indeed. I also think it's important not to get sucked into hype, and let's face it, whatever you think of Slic, ridiculously hyped-up (by the original reviewer and its supplier) is precisely what it was! And *that* was always liable to get people's backs up, regardless of how good the product actually was............. Marco.
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Post by MartinT on Aug 4, 2014 9:09:51 GMT
The hype emanated primarily from one person who became extremely over-enthusiastic and exaggerated the likely effect on a system beyond all possibility of any cable having that effect.
Others seem to have either tried it and liked it, or tried it and disliked it, which is fair enough.
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Post by danielquinn on Aug 4, 2014 9:15:50 GMT
My post is factual and counter balancing . For all I know the cable could be ineffective or brilliant . DQ, your post is fine now that I've removed the needless denigration of another product.
Factual information is always welcome, but beware of being accused of shilling - which I can see that you're not doing. However, others have been very liberal in their fanciful accusations of shilling whereas in fact I know of only one proven case on another forum.
What I said was factual - read his website . As you yourself go on to admit , facts can not be derogatory . I am confused by your moderation ,.
it says " an interconnect that can only be described as the nearest thing to having no cable in your system. The Slic Innovations "Eclipse C" will both shock and astound in equal measures, you will not believe what you are hearing. Famouly invented in Huddersfield! benefits are simple to describe, this cable will allow you to hear detail that is in the recordings you listen to every day but the cables you were using did not reveal them"
On the same website there is for sale numerous other cables which are more expensive !
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Post by Marco on Aug 4, 2014 9:16:41 GMT
Yeah sure, Martin, I agree. The point I was making, though, is that the biggest contributory factor for why Slic has generated so much 'heat' is because of the way it was originally introduced on AoS. We've learned a lot of lessons from that! Marco.
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Post by danielquinn on Aug 4, 2014 9:19:53 GMT
prices are transparent , price reflects costs of the cable , labour and overheads and the same element built in for reasonable profit . The high price of this cable reflects labour and high raw cable charge .
Could not the same be said for ANY cable manufacturer / supplier ?
And if you do not have intimate knowledge of how OTHER manufacturers work out their prices then your comments are almost libellous.You need to revise the difference between fact and opinion .
As for libel , you are wrong and the reasons other price structure are not transparent , is obvious . I challenge any other manufacturer to come on here and lay bare their price structure . Perhaps pinke will tell us how the funk can sell a cable at £1800 a meter . He's an accountant , he may already know .
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Post by pre65 on Aug 4, 2014 9:26:21 GMT
But why should any manufacturer need to justify what something cost ?
If you think something is "too expensive" then don't buy it. Simples. Most of us, by now, have realised what your political leanings are, but do we need to have them shoved in our face so often ?
Anyway, I thought politics was a banned subject on here.
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Post by danielquinn on Aug 4, 2014 9:33:50 GMT
Your post is incongruous .
You seem to suggest a preference for placid pleasant posts and yet you juxtapose this suggestion with an inflammatory question ?
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Post by gazjam on Aug 4, 2014 9:35:36 GMT
But why should any manufacturer need to justify what something cost ?
If you think something is "too expensive" then don't buy it. Simples. Most of us, by now, have realised what your political leanings are, but do we need to have them shoved in our face so often ?
Anyway, I thought politics was a banned subject on here.
As is product promotion
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Post by Marco on Aug 4, 2014 9:36:39 GMT
But why should any manufacturer need to justify what something cost ?
If you think something is "too expensive" then don't buy it. Simples. Most of us, by now, have realised what your political leanings are, but do we need to have them shoved in our face so often ?
Anyway, I thought politics was a banned subject on here.
For once we agree. I can't stand politics - most of it bores the pants off of me! Total yawnsville. It's the very last thing I'd choose to read about on a hi-fi and music forum, or anywhere, period. Change the record, danny-boy... BOOORRRRINNGGG! Marco.
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Post by danielquinn on Aug 4, 2014 9:46:32 GMT
I remain perplexed , except for the continuation threads [ what you are you listening to etc ] the most read and active threads are ones in which I have expressed my brilliant opinions
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Post by pre65 on Aug 4, 2014 9:58:02 GMT
I remain perplexed , except for the continuation threads [ what you are you listening to etc ] the most read and active threads are ones in which I have expressed my brilliant opinions Maybe so Daniel, but I think you may be under a misapprehension that the popularity of those threads is due to your input.
If you could lose the "indoctrination" of your political belief I'm sure there would be hearty applause from the majority.
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