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Post by gazjam on Aug 1, 2014 22:43:41 GMT
anyway... cables don't make a difference do they? *BOOM*
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Post by ninanina on Aug 1, 2014 22:44:44 GMT
There's a little sense of humour failure going on here. Try not to take things too seriously. Chris: it's called the Law of Diminishing Returns. I have to agree with you Martin.... Shame really
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Post by ninanina on Aug 1, 2014 22:46:47 GMT
anyway... cables don't make a difference do they? *BOOM*
That made me giggle....
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Post by Dave on Aug 1, 2014 22:47:09 GMT
Oh no, not at all. In fact I'm off to superglue some string to my drivers then attach plastic cups t'other end to use as headphones
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Post by gazjam on Aug 1, 2014 22:53:15 GMT
Try homemade cardboard elephant ears, really tightens up the soundstage... This is fact, can provide Science bit if interested...
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Post by Chris on Aug 1, 2014 23:02:56 GMT
It's called utter pish to me. Total rip off.
Yet again - just an opinion - do what ya want with yer money,I couldn't care.
Just note as well,nowhere have I rubbished anyone's choice of components.
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Post by gazjam on Aug 1, 2014 23:03:50 GMT
true 'dat.
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Post by Chris on Aug 1, 2014 23:06:38 GMT
Just to restore humour.
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Post by ninanina on Aug 1, 2014 23:24:02 GMT
He/she looks a little cutie..... Hey we agree on one thing.... I love animals too....... xx
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Post by Tim on Aug 1, 2014 23:39:43 GMT
So to be fair you cannot saying the SLIC is worth the dosh or not... Of course he can, its all down to personal perception of worth, which clearly differs greatly between people. I can say without hearing a SLIC cable its not worth £500.00, as I wouldn't care what it did to my sound (colouration is all it can be IMHO) as I would never in a month of Sundays pay £500.00 for an interconnect, so to me (and no doubt many others) it's not worth it and never will be - simples. But no need to get so defensive, some people think its a dumb idea, others don't, which is fine - we are all entitled to our opinions, be that for or against expensive tweaks like cables - free choice to do what we please and forums are supposed to be for the expression of views, which will always have detractors or supporters. If you get ticked off everytime someone disagrees with you or challenges your opinion, forums are not the place to hang out
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Post by ninanina on Aug 2, 2014 0:50:32 GMT
What Tim said........
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Post by pinkie on Aug 2, 2014 6:41:11 GMT
Now this is very naughty of me, cos I am on holiday and in no mood to read the whole thread. I was just struck by how well its doing in the pop charts and wondered what all the fuss is with SLIC. After all, whilst they are a lot of money, and a lot of money for the "fairy dust" element (ie secret technologies, and magic production techniques, patents and mystique rather than raw component cost), they are pretty small beer compared with some products (a good friend of mine lists cables on his website for far more - and I've seen them - they even have those lovely arrows on so you don't get lost in the dark) So - loads of dosh, and for fairly cheap wire, but just what is it has got people so excitable and defensive about them? Was it Franks fan dance on AOS. A reputation for aggressive marketing by their promotor? My scanning of posts suggests at least 50% of the relatively few people trying them are luke-cold about them, even Martin T moving on from his balanced set, and that is more than damning with faint praise when you consider that to get the bloody things you have to weigh out serious money and "expectation bias" and "cognitive dissonance" are working hard in the cables favour. Cagey is about to try to persuade me tomorrow I should get excited about cables. Our plans have been spoilt a bit by Pip 2 blowing one of my ESL63's and being quarantined, so I am out here with the DIN only Pip 1. But I have a feeling he will be so excited by Pip he will rather wonder whether he can be bothered with bits of wire. Its not that they make no difference - just not that sort of difference. A demain as they say in these parts
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2014 6:58:34 GMT
Now this is very naughty of me, cos I am on holiday and in no mood to read the whole thread. I was just struck by how well its doing in the pop charts and wondered what all the fuss is with SLIC. After all, whilst they are a lot of money, and a lot of money for the "fairy dust" element (ie secret technologies, and magic production techniques, patents and mystique rather than raw component cost), they are pretty small beer compared with some products (a good friend of mine lists cables on his website for far more - and I've seen them - they even have those lovely arrows on so you don't get lost in the dark) So - loads of dosh, and for fairly cheap wire, but just what is it has got people so excitable and defensive about them? Was it Franks fan dance on AOS. A reputation for aggressive marketing by their promotor? My scanning of posts suggests at least 50% of the relatively few people trying them are luke-cold about them, even Martin T moving on from his balanced set, and that is more than damning with faint praise when you consider that to get the bloody things you have to weigh out serious money and "expectation bias" and "cognitive dissonance" are working hard in the cables favour. Cagey is about to try to persuade me tomorrow I should get excited about cables. Our plans have been spoilt a bit by Pip 2 blowing one of my ESL63's and being quarantined, so I am out here with the DIN only Pip 1. But I have a feeling he will be so excited by Pip he will rather wonder whether he can be bothered with bits of wire. Its not that they make no difference - just not that sort of difference. A demain as they say in these parts Bonjour Monsieur Pinke We concluded last night that some people have heard them and like the sound they make, other people have heard them and don't like the sound they make, and a third group of people haven't heard them and wouldn't spend £500 on a bit of wire that they think will sound virtually identical to any other bit of wire.
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Post by gazjam on Aug 2, 2014 7:09:16 GMT
And that is a concreteful fact...
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Post by DaveC on Aug 2, 2014 7:25:08 GMT
spoilt a bit by Pip 2 blowing one of my ESL63's and being quarantined, How did that happen ?
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Post by dvh on Aug 2, 2014 8:16:37 GMT
Now this is very naughty of me, cos I am on holiday and in no mood to read the whole thread. I was just struck by how well its doing in the pop charts and wondered what all the fuss is with SLIC. After all, whilst they are a lot of money, and a lot of money for the "fairy dust" element (ie secret technologies, and magic production techniques, patents and mystique rather than raw component cost), they are pretty small beer compared with some products (a good friend of mine lists cables on his website for far more - and I've seen them - they even have those lovely arrows on so you don't get lost in the dark) So - loads of dosh, and for fairly cheap wire, but just what is it has got people so excitable and defensive about them? Was it Franks fan dance on AOS. A reputation for aggressive marketing by their promotor? My scanning of posts suggests at least 50% of the relatively few people trying them are luke-cold about them, even Martin T moving on from his balanced set, and that is more than damning with faint praise when you consider that to get the bloody things you have to weigh out serious money and "expectation bias" and "cognitive dissonance" are working hard in the cables favour. Cagey is about to try to persuade me tomorrow I should get excited about cables. Our plans have been spoilt a bit by Pip 2 blowing one of my ESL63's and being quarantined, so I am out here with the DIN only Pip 1. But I have a feeling he will be so excited by Pip he will rather wonder whether he can be bothered with bits of wire. Its not that they make no difference - just not that sort of difference. A demain as they say in these parts Bonjour Monsieur Pinke We concluded last night that some people have heard them and like the sound they make, other people have heard them and don't like the sound they make, and a third group of people haven't heard them and wouldn't spend £500 on a bit of wire that they think will sound virtually identical to any other bit of wire. Plus someone who heard them and liked the sound they made has now realised that he prefers the sound made by another bit of wire. Anyway. Cables. Always good for a ding-dong argument, for some reason.
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Post by MartinT on Aug 2, 2014 12:04:28 GMT
Hah! It's a journey and you missed out the bit where I made improvements to my system, so what previously sounded good no longer works as well as my older cables. If you're always honest with your findings, then you'll always take the right path. No placebos here!
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Post by John on Aug 2, 2014 12:10:05 GMT
For me a perfect illustration of finding out what works best with your system. When you make changes it changes the balance and worth re-confirming.
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Post by MikeMusic on Aug 2, 2014 12:20:25 GMT
Just to restore humour. CAT 5 ?
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Post by brian2957 on Aug 2, 2014 12:23:37 GMT
What improvements did you make Martin ?
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