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Post by MartinT on Jun 5, 2022 17:08:56 GMT
i find myself strangely removed from the whole experience. Yes, that's interesting and does require a psychological jump. At first, I still scanned my records and CDs for ideas and then called them up on streaming. As a kind of crossover point was reached, I found myself building playlists and getting more of the ideas directly and referring to the physical collection far less. Now, I rarely look at my CDs (the records are long gone), only to search for something I know I have but the title of which I've forgotten. Being able to read about an artist in my spare moments, sometimes on a lunch break at work, then put it straight into my 'Queued for listening' playlist on my phone or work computer, is invaluable. It makes the whole passion feel more joined up: a modern take on reading a review and then ordering the album. Only now, it's there in my playlist when I get home. |
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Post by ant on Jun 5, 2022 17:47:53 GMT
As a counterpoint to the above, i use vinyl and cd and dont stream at all. I do have the gear to stream if i want to but i find it a pain in the arse, and i find myself strangely removed from the whole experience. I have a couple of thousand records and cds, and when i want to listen to something i like to peruse the shelves so to speak. I find myself going down rabbit holes within my own collection, and practically every time i pick out a cd or record i remember where i got it from or some little thing about why i have it. There is something to be said for me at least for a physical object. Actually, i suppose i do stream every so often because i do come across music on youtube then buy it as a physical copy of things i like. i found myself not listening to albums when i had the streaming stuff set up, getting bored half way through an album and jumping to something else which i think was affecting my perception of artists in some ways. So for me personally, even though technically i can, i just cant let go of the cds and lps. The physical objects mean something to me that some data on a hard drive just doesnt But each to their own, so long as a person enjoys their music its irrelevant what it comes out of For me, I actually found it hugely liberating moving on from vinyl. The collecting and hunting down of rare albums became more important than listening to them. With streaming I have listened to masses more music both new and old and am happy to pay for Spotify Premium and forego the crazy prices I would have to pay for the kind of vinyl that would interest me. My record collection is pretty much intact but I have dismantled all my analogue gear. I buy any old crap when it comes to lps, so long as its vaguely playable, i have no interest in collecting lps because the way i see it if they are worth alot of money you dont play them. My wife bought me an original mofi dark side of the moon for christmas one year, must have cost a fortune and i didnt ask. But ive played it once. I darent play the bloody thing. So i wont buy 'rare' lps. |
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Post by MikeMusic on Jun 5, 2022 18:01:59 GMT
As a counterpoint to the above, i use vinyl and cd and dont stream at all. I do have the gear to stream if i want to but i find it a pain in the arse, and i find myself strangely removed from the whole experience. I have a couple of thousand records and cds, and when i want to listen to something i like to peruse the shelves so to speak. I find myself going down rabbit holes within my own collection, and practically every time i pick out a cd or record i remember where i got it from or some little thing about why i have it. There is something to be said for me at least for a physical object. Actually, i suppose i do stream every so often because i do come across music on youtube then buy it as a physical copy of things i like. i found myself not listening to albums when i had the streaming stuff set up, getting bored half way through an album and jumping to something else which i think was affecting my perception of artists in some ways. So for me personally, even though technically i can, i just cant let go of the cds and lps. The physical objects mean something to me that some data on a hard drive just doesnt But each to their own, so long as a person enjoys their music its irrelevant what it comes out of We have a similar outlook There is something about streaming that doesn't click for me |
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Post by MikeMusic on Jun 5, 2022 18:06:36 GMT
As a counterpoint to the above, i use vinyl and cd and dont stream at all. I do have the gear to stream if i want to but i find it a pain in the arse, and i find myself strangely removed from the whole experience. I have a couple of thousand records and cds, and when i want to listen to something i like to peruse the shelves so to speak. I find myself going down rabbit holes within my own collection, and practically every time i pick out a cd or record i remember where i got it from or some little thing about why i have it. There is something to be said for me at least for a physical object. Actually, i suppose i do stream every so often because i do come across music on youtube then buy it as a physical copy of things i like. i found myself not listening to albums when i had the streaming stuff set up, getting bored half way through an album and jumping to something else which i think was affecting my perception of artists in some ways. So for me personally, even though technically i can, i just cant let go of the cds and lps. The physical objects mean something to me that some data on a hard drive just doesnt But each to their own, so long as a person enjoys their music its irrelevant what it comes out of For me, I actually found it hugely liberating moving on from vinyl. The collecting and hunting down of rare albums became more important than listening to them. With streaming I have listened to masses more music both new and old and am happy to pay for Spotify Premium and forego the crazy prices I would have to pay for the kind of vinyl that would interest me. My record collection is pretty much intact but I have dismantled all my analogue gear. I do have a thing about hunting down CDs, at the right price Good to get a rarity at a good price |
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Post by MikeMusic on Jun 5, 2022 18:09:23 GMT
i find myself strangely removed from the whole experience. Yes, that's interesting and does require a psychological jump. At first, I still scanned my records and CDs for ideas and then called them up on streaming. As a kind of crossover point was reached, I found myself building playlists and getting more of the ideas directly and referring to the physical collection far less. Now, I rarely look at my CDs (the records are long gone), only to search for something I know I have but the title of which I've forgotten. Being able to read about an artist in my spare moments, sometimes on a lunch break at work, then put it straight into my 'Queued for listening' playlist on my phone or work computer, is invaluable. It makes the whole passion feel more joined up: a modern take on reading a review and then ordering the album. Only now, it's there in my playlist when I get home. That might come to me I often have a queue on the laptop to add to the CD playlist |
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Post by John on Jun 5, 2022 18:20:39 GMT
A lot of us were heavily into vinyl I had quite a few high end TTs and used to enjoy record hunting. It was not a easy choice moving the turntable on as a lot of emotional attachment to the format, but for me I was just not using it anymore.
I sometimes feel a bit responsible for Martin moving on his Turntable and CD player many years ago.
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Post by MartinT on Jun 5, 2022 19:15:52 GMT
I sometimes feel a bit responsible for Martin moving on his Turntable and CD player many years ago. Hah - you're off the hook, John. Once I made the decision to move wholesale to streaming (Jerry jandl100 was probably most influential here), selling all the records and CD kit was the natural progression, so that I could reinvest in the best streaming kit I could find. |
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Post by nicholas on Jun 5, 2022 19:32:35 GMT
I can't even imagine having to get up from my listening chair each time I wished to hear something else...
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Post by julesd68 on Jun 5, 2022 20:22:54 GMT
For me, I actually found it hugely liberating moving on from vinyl. The collecting and hunting down of rare albums became more important than listening to them. With streaming I have listened to masses more music both new and old and am happy to pay for Spotify Premium and forego the crazy prices I would have to pay for the kind of vinyl that would interest me. My record collection is pretty much intact but I have dismantled all my analogue gear. I buy any old crap when it comes to lps, so long as its vaguely playable, i have no interest in collecting lps because the way i see it if they are worth alot of money you dont play them. My wife bought me an original mofi dark side of the moon for christmas one year, must have cost a fortune and i didnt ask. But ive played it once. I darent play the bloody thing. So i wont buy 'rare' lps. Unfortunately for me it was 'near mint' or sealed only - was so focussed on condition ... one of the joys (not) of having OCD. Now I don't have to worry about clicks and pops making me feel stressed, it was actually a relief for me to move on. |
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Post by stanleyb on Jun 10, 2022 9:21:13 GMT
I started playing about with file based about 20 years ago, and find it best of the lot. I can pick music by BPM (beats per minute), genre, sample rate, bit rate, period, etc. And all from the comfort of my phone. What's not to like?
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Post by MikeMusic on Jun 10, 2022 13:16:13 GMT
Assuming I have at least 2 back ups - yes !
The Nova Fidelity X45 and 50, if I remember right, impressed with the sound quality
What else can you select on Stan ?
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Post by MartinT on Jun 10, 2022 14:21:40 GMT
With something like an ultraRendu, you don't need any local file storage. Put your music files in Google Drive or OneDrive and they will play. Then call up a track on Qobuz. Same result.
Seamless!
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Post by John on Jun 10, 2022 15:08:06 GMT
I would suggest if you go for this keep your CD player until/unless you prefer streaming
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Post by MikeMusic on Jun 10, 2022 15:31:52 GMT
I would suggest if you go for this keep your CD player until/unless you prefer streaming I still have multiple tape decks, couple of high end cassette decks as well as my Technics record deck ! |
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Post by MikeMusic on Jun 19, 2022 11:05:43 GMT
I'm at a crossroads. Didn't fall down on my knees but I did pause for thought
Sampling an album today and thinking I would rather like the CD
Close to impossible to get on CD, expensive on LP which I don't want
Just there on YouTube Music and Spot
There have been other albums recently that were £10, £20 and more for CD that were also just there for streaming
Hmm. Maybe mix of CD and streaming calls
If it does I need to decide which streaming service, YouTube starts favourite
Also need to upgrade some kit as a quick comparison yesterday showed YT via laptop and Bluetooth was good until I listened to CD - no where near as good
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Post by MartinT on Jun 19, 2022 11:19:09 GMT
Do your research, Mike, and listen to a few streaming systems if you can.
Choosing the service is important for selection and sound quality reasons.
Choosing the method of delivery (streamer, DAC, etc.) is a minefield.
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Post by MikeMusic on Jun 19, 2022 13:04:28 GMT
Lots to learn and hopefully TAS has most of the answers with the members
I assume we can change supplier fairly easy, 1 month cancellation for all ?
Initially and probably most important long term is the supplier with the most amount of music I want to listen to.
Great quality sound is no good without the albums
When I Google I see the answers from
Spot. YT. Apple. Deezer
No Quboz though. How can I include Quboz ?
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Post by John on Jun 19, 2022 13:17:43 GMT
I'm at a crossroads. Didn't fall down on my knees but I did pause for thought If it does I need to decide which streaming service, YouTube starts favourite Also need to upgrade some kit as a quick comparison yesterday showed YT via laptop and Bluetooth was good until I listened to CD - no where near as good Are you changing the settings in Developers Option Mike With YouTube I suggest 24/96 for the best results |
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Post by MartinT on Jun 19, 2022 15:01:42 GMT
Lots to learn and hopefully TAS has most of the answers with the members I assume we can change supplier fairly easy, 1 month cancellation for all ? Initially and probably most important long term is the supplier with the most amount of music I want to listen to. Great quality sound is no good without the albums When I Google I see the answers from Spot. YT. Apple. Deezer No Quboz though. How can I include Quboz ? Two things: 1) search all the services, 2) check that your selected solution supports as many of them as possible, giving you the best selection. For instance, not many support Amazon Music or YouTube Music. What happens when you go to play.qobuz.com ? Can you use the search without logging in? |
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Post by MikeMusic on Jun 19, 2022 15:06:14 GMT
I'm at a crossroads. Didn't fall down on my knees but I did pause for thought If it does I need to decide which streaming service, YouTube starts favourite Also need to upgrade some kit as a quick comparison yesterday showed YT via laptop and Bluetooth was good until I listened to CD - no where near as good Are you changing the settings in Developers Option Mike With YouTube I suggest 24/96 for the best results Still using the W10 laptop at the moment Only seems available in Android which I will bring into use (eventually !) |
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