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Post by MartinT on May 27, 2022 19:39:22 GMT
Weights and footers work on my grounding boxes. Mad, isn't it?  |
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Post by MikeMusic on May 27, 2022 19:49:55 GMT
Wondered if the footers had to be in place before weights made any difference Not so from what I heard today I assume there will be another step up adding footers Used to think grounding boxes couldn't work  |
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Post by yorkshireman on May 28, 2022 22:54:47 GMT
Oooh weights on ground boxes.. must try that have 3 weights spare at the moment (when i say spare, they are holding doors open)
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Post by MikeMusic on May 29, 2022 9:04:46 GMT
Report back !
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Post by yorkshireman on Jun 4, 2022 20:52:57 GMT
I put 2 1.1kg weights on top of my Coherent RTZ2mk2 and over the next 3 days noticed an increase in speration and definition, along with tighter, cleaner and lower bass, overall its a winner, all for about £15. |
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Post by MikeMusic on Jun 5, 2022 9:22:59 GMT
I put 2 1.1kg weights on top of my Coherent RTZ2mk2 and over the next 3 days noticed an increase in speration and definition, along with tighter, cleaner and lower bass, overall its a winner, all for about £15. Great My RTZ 3 had one granite placemat on it. Improved sound by putting 3.4kg on the placemat I wonder how far we can go with this ! |
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Post by julesd68 on Jun 5, 2022 14:01:49 GMT
Doesn't putting heavy weights on gear result in squashed dynamics??  |
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Post by petea on Jun 5, 2022 14:31:39 GMT
It widens the soundstage though!  |
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Post by MikeMusic on Jun 5, 2022 14:57:36 GMT
More weight in the whole sound stage !
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Post by MikeMusic on Jun 29, 2022 15:08:22 GMT
Testing time
Management Summary :
Put weights on your kit and extract more music from your system for very little money
The heavier the better
Recent purchases of various granite coasters and placemats has given me more flexibility for weights on kit
Self adhesive felt applied yesterday. You can keep the existing feet but I prefer keeping the kit safe from granite banging or scraping over it.
All weights and Black Ravioli footers removed from TAD M2500 Power Amp.
This was the only change. Weights and BR left with the rest of the system.
Test. Sounds good, better than expected.
For completeness I tested everything I have.
One 100mm square black granite coaster. 240g
Subtle improvement in sound
Surely not
Retest, yes there is. That is a surprise.
Coaster off, 210mm x 295mm granite placemat in place. 1583g
Slightly bigger sound improvement
Second granite placemat added, another 1583g
Slightly bigger sound improvement
Granite placemats removed
Granite placemat 300 x 400mm in place. About 5.5kg
Slightly bigger sound improvement
Second granite placemat added, another 5.5kg
Slightly bigger sound improvement
That's as much height as I can sensibly fit in to be able put the Black Ravioli footers back as well.
*Hard* work lifting and sliding the BRs under the TAD
The biggest sound improvement - so yes BRs are still an essential
What improvements ?
'Louder', more space, more detail, smoother, nicer to listen to, more width, music opened out, greater separation, background forward while keeping foreground intact, fuller sound.
Looking closely with the BRs in place it is possible I can get another placemat in the height available.
Back into the playlist. Yes, better
More music being delivered
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Post by MikeMusic on Jul 6, 2022 10:48:08 GMT
Work in progress continues with weights.
TAD power amp has 2 large granite placemats on top, Black Ravioli underneath sitting in Creaktiv rack.
Looks like I can just get another big placemat in !
Play test track
Struggle to slide 3rd big placemat in. No, too difficult and could cause damage to the kit or me, now or in the future.
Damn. Thinks....
Will 2 smaller placemats fit as slightly thinner.... Yes !
Test track, won't be any better will it
'Tis
More of the usual - greater separation, more detail, space, bass, air
Will one or more of you lot try some heavier weights out and report back - gowan
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Post by MartinT on Jul 6, 2022 10:58:13 GMT
I have two Schramms (=2.4kg) on each of my streamer, DAC, power amp and P3 regenerator and three more on grounding boxes.
I'm not going to push it anymore as my 6-legged system rack is on large RDC Cones so there is a lot of weight on those 6 points.
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Post by MikeMusic on Jul 6, 2022 16:32:44 GMT
Think I'm fine with an empty slot on the Creaktiv rack where most of the weight will be added
Will check to be sure
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Post by julesd68 on Jul 6, 2022 16:43:27 GMT
The best weight is no weight.
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Post by MikeMusic on Jul 6, 2022 16:49:53 GMT
Go on....
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Post by SteveC on Jul 9, 2022 9:35:23 GMT
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Post by MartinT on Jul 9, 2022 9:45:00 GMT
The Schramms are stainless steel.
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Post by MikeMusic on Jul 9, 2022 15:50:57 GMT
Granite placemats deliver a lot of weight for the height.
Door stops deliver the weight, maybe equal in terms of size but don't allow use in lower shelves where height is limited
Thus my purchase of placemats
The 300 x 400mm are thicker than the 'normal' 300 x 200mm so that much heavier per item
Black on black kit makes them almost invisible too
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Post by MikeMusic on Jul 10, 2022 10:54:08 GMT
Next weights test on the Audio Magic Conditioner
Existing
Two 300 x 200mm granite placemats with weight lifting weights totalling just under 10 kilos
Testing
Two 400 x 300mm granite placemats replacing the weight lifting weights. Total now 13.7 kilos
More than subtle improvement. The usual as above. Louder, more detail, bass, separation.
Doesn't seem believable
Lower shelf on the rack has some more height where I can just fit some weight lifting weights which add 4.5 kilos
This is more believable. Only a subtle improvement
Which brings me onto another question to answer
The weight lifting weights probably have a concrete like material
The granite placemats are that much denser
Does it make a difference *what* weights you use ?
Does density make any difference ?
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Post by MikeMusic on Jul 17, 2022 15:58:30 GMT
TAD D-1000 weight testing
Heath Robinson design on top
Two Electric Beach
Two 300 x 200mm granite placemats
Two 2kg and two 1kg weight lifting weights
Total weight 11kg
Sounds fine
Swap to
Two 400 x 300mm granite placemats
Total weight 11kg
Sounds more or less the same.
Five 300 x 200mm granite placemats added on top
Smoother sound with better lead in and decay to notes
Extra weight gives extra music
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