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Post by danielquinn on Aug 28, 2014 8:50:09 GMT
If 100's of innocent shot dead school children are not sufficient , one dead stupid firearms instructor aint gonna register .
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Post by AlexM on Aug 28, 2014 10:28:17 GMT
An establishment calling itself 'Bullets and Burgers' is a certain indicator of a sick culture that glorifies violence and death.
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Post by Dave on Aug 28, 2014 11:18:36 GMT
It is difficult for a nation to garner respect throughout the world, suing for peace in troubled, far-off lands when your own citizens are armed to the teeth and gunning each other down with wild abandon.
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Post by Stratmangler on Aug 28, 2014 11:41:59 GMT
It is difficult for a nation to garner respect throughout the world, suing for peace in troubled, far-off lands when your own citizens are armed to the teeth and gunning each other down with wild abandon. I think a little bit of self moderation is required Dave! "Gunning each other down with wild abandon" is a rediculous statement to make, and far from reality. There is the occasional nutter who flips, but there's nothing you can do to stop them. It was only last year someone in Cardiff was mown down by a headcase driving a van - she died pushing her kids out of harm's way. Does this mean that we should stop our population from driving motor vehicles? No!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2014 12:20:35 GMT
It is difficult for a nation to garner respect throughout the world, suing for peace in troubled, far-off lands when your own citizens are armed to the teeth and gunning each other down with wild abandon. I think a little bit of self moderation is required Dave! "Gunning each other down with wild abandon" is a rediculous statement to make, and far from reality. There is the occasional nutter who flips, but there's nothing you can do to stop them. It was only last year someone in Cardiff was mown down by a headcase driving a van - she died pushing her kids out of harm's way. Does this mean that we should stop our population from driving motor vehicles?No! Most of them I reckon. Obviously, brilliant drivers like me should be allowed to continue.
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Post by danielquinn on Aug 28, 2014 12:31:45 GMT
There is a fundamental difference between cars and guns and whilst prefab sprout were correct , some things hurt more much more than cars and girls.They didn't mean guns .
Guns have no purpose except to fire bullets . The misery they cause is pursuant of thier purpose . Cars cause limited collateral misery which does not outweigh their purpose .Guns are designed to and must necessarily cause misery if they are used .That's why they should be banned .
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Post by Dave on Aug 28, 2014 13:34:08 GMT
Why self-moderation Chris? Guns have no other purpose than to maim or kill, cars (or vans) get you (or goods) from A to B on the other hand. As for the twonk you mention, had he lived in the US there may well have been many more casualties as he would have had easy access to firearms.
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Post by ChrisB on Aug 28, 2014 13:49:59 GMT
Guns do have legitimate purposes and if properly controlled there is no reason why people shouldn't pursue those purposes in a civilised society. Proper control is rarely excercised though, even in some countries with strict measures in place.
What went on in the case of the OP was unforgivable and both the club and the child's father, who I understand was present (filming the child shooting her instructor) should both be prosecuted.
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Post by danielquinn on Aug 28, 2014 13:53:02 GMT
Firstly , I would question what legitimate purpose .
Secondly, if for one minute i concede the issue of legitimate purpose [ which i am not inclined to do ] i would argue that such a purpose could be carried out without gun ownership .
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Post by Chris on Aug 28, 2014 13:53:28 GMT
One of the film crew from "Cops" just got shot dead by da cops in Omaha who were engaged in a gunfight with a bloke with a pellet gun. Brilliant.
Does anyone ever watch Reno 911?
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Post by Dave on Aug 28, 2014 14:02:14 GMT
Guns do have legitimate purposes and if properly controlled there is no reason why people shouldn't pursue those purposes in a civilised society. Proper control is rarely excercised though, even in some countries with strict measures in place. What went on in the case of the OP was unforgivable and both the club and the child's father, who I understand was present (filming the child shooting her instructor) should both be prosecuted.
Chris, my statement above is factually accurate and worded very carefully (self-moderation?)
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Post by danielquinn on Aug 28, 2014 14:07:54 GMT
Dave , it isnt , shooting is an olympic sport as well as a recrational activity for some . Additionally , guns control animals . Furthermore There are dart guns , glue guns , tranquiliser guns, staple guns , nails guns etc .
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Post by ChrisB on Aug 28, 2014 14:10:22 GMT
Well, Dave, with respect, the thousands of shots I've fired at paper and steel targets say otherwise.
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Post by Dave on Aug 28, 2014 14:11:56 GMT
Thanks for reminding me there are 'guns' of other types which don't kill things DQ, thank god you are here to remind us that we have such empty heads, what would we do without you? Shit, I've just noticed I have opposable thumbs, how weird...
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Post by Dave on Aug 28, 2014 14:14:12 GMT
And so the justification continues, we really do get what we deserve...
Anyway, I'm outta here...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2014 14:17:45 GMT
And so the justification continues, we really do get what we deserve...
Anyway, I'm outta here... Hopefully just this thread. You can't go otherwise, you are only 379 posts from 1000. Who am I going to compete with now?
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Post by Dave on Aug 28, 2014 14:19:34 GMT
LOL... You go right ahead Gordy, happy to trail along in your wake sir
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Post by danielquinn on Aug 28, 2014 14:24:10 GMT
Dear me dave stropping come on its only a bit of fun . anybody who says - "Chris, my statement above is factually accurate and worded very carefully (self-moderation?) " deserves to told , well erm no it isnt And i do empathise , i am the person who as dvh scrutinizing his every post for semantic sloppiness .
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Post by dvh on Aug 28, 2014 14:39:43 GMT
Dear me dave stropping come on its only a bit of fun . anybody who says - "Chris, my statement above is factually accurate and worded very carefully (self-moderation?) " deserves to told , well erm no it isnt And i do empathise , i am the person who as dvh scrutinizing his every post for semantic sloppiness . Happy to help. By the way, the word is 'has' not 'as'.
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Post by Chris on Aug 28, 2014 20:54:17 GMT
So has anyone seen Reno 911?
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