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Post by ant on Mar 29, 2021 11:39:20 GMT
The daft seb moment was the low point of the weekend for him, but there were also some sparks of the old seb there too which was encouraging. There was no spark at all last year apart from turkey for him. I reckon the data all the teams have collected from this weekend will mean that we will see progress across the board, apart from haas who have already said they wont be developing the car. The tyre data from race conditions will be most useful, testing and racing are different things. Testing wont have shown how they behave in the dirty air behind another car, red bull reckoned that bit of a slide from verstappen after giving the place back to hamilton overheated the rear tyres and pretty much buggered his chances of getting right back on it. A little bit of extra heat from the slide cooked them
The 3 week gap to imola will give the teams a useful leg up
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Post by Clive on Mar 29, 2021 12:07:12 GMT
From the armchair it looks like Merc have 2 issues to fix.
1) rear stability - maybe an aero fix or just setup
2) deployment (ERS) isn't yet working as it should - they are losing out at the end of the straights
3 weeks and all that data from the race will keep them busy, as is the case with all the teams.
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Post by MartinT on Apr 10, 2021 11:55:32 GMT
Look at Perez go, from the back of the grid. Impressive!
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Post by MartinT on Apr 18, 2021 9:16:33 GMT
A very unexpected pole for Hamilton and a stunning 2nd place for Perez. So glad he's mixing it with Verstappen and not letting him get away like Gasly and Albon did.
Grid
1 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes
2 Sergio Perez Red Bull
3 Max Verstappen Red Bull
4 Charles Leclerc Ferrari
5 Pierre Gasly AlphaTauri
6 Daniel Ricciardo McLaren
7 Lando Norris McLaren
8 Valtteri Bottas Mercedes
9 Esteban Ocon Alpine
10 Lance Stroll Aston Martin
11 Carlos Sainz Ferrari
12 George Russell Williams
13 Sebastian Vettel Aston Martin
14 Nicholas Latifi Williams
15 Fernando Alonso Alpine
16 Kimi Raikkonen Alfa Romeo Racing
17 Antonio Giovinazzi Alfa Romeo Racing
18 Mick Schumacher Haas
19 Nikita Mazepin Haas
20 Yuki Tsunoda AlphaTauri
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Post by MikeMusic on Apr 18, 2021 11:00:43 GMT
Hamilton pulling a rabbit out of the hat where there was no rabbit
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Post by MartinT on Apr 18, 2021 17:52:30 GMT
I only saw the highlights today, but that looked like quite a race. Verstappen dominant, Hamilton rescuing a crash by coming in 2nd from a long way back, Russell and Bottas exchanging 'pleasantries'. How on earth Hamilton got fastest lap in a damaged car I haven't quite worked out yet.
Result
1 Max Verstappen Red Bull 1:17.526
2 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 22.000s
3 Lando Norris McLaren 23.702s
4 Charles Leclerc Ferrari 25.579s
5 Carlos Sainz Ferrari 27.036s
6 Daniel Ricciardo McLaren 51.220s
7 Lance Stroll Aston Martin 51.909s
8 Pierre Gasly AlphaTauri 52.818s
9 Kimi Raikkonen Alfa Romeo Racing 64.773s
10 Esteban Ocon Alpine 65.704s
11 Fernando Alonso Alpine 66.561s
12 Sergio Perez Red Bull 67.151s
13 Yuki Tsunoda AlphaTauri 73.184s
14 Antonio Giovinazzi Alfa Romeo Racing 1 Lap
15 Sebastian Vettel Aston Martin 1 Lap
16 Mick Schumacher Haas 1 Lap
17 Nikita Mazepin Haas 2 Laps
Did Not Finish
Valtteri Bottas Mercedes crash
George Russell Williams crash
Nicholas Latifi Williams crash
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Post by robbiegong on Apr 18, 2021 18:13:42 GMT
Was a good race. Superb pass on LH, from the start by MV to snatch the lead.
Really not looking good for Bottas, yet again. Of course it's a long season but I sense even Wolff, who likes him is getting a bit frustrated with his Sunday performance's.
Season shaping up nicely in terms of LH v MV / MB v RB, which is what the fan's want
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Post by MartinT on Apr 18, 2021 20:16:33 GMT
I sense that this will definitely be Bottas' last season with MB.
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Post by MartinT on May 2, 2021 10:22:09 GMT
I sense today is going to be a race worth watching. The Portuguese track looks like a real handful. Bottas and Hamilton on the front row, Verstappen waiting to pounce in 3rd. Sainz in 5th, beating Leclerc!
Times
1 Valtteri Bottas Mercedes 1:18.348
2 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 0.007s
3 Max Verstappen Red Bull 0.398s
4 Sergio Perez Red Bull 0.542s
5 Carlos Sainz Ferrari 0.691s
6 Esteban Ocon Alpine 0.694s
7 Lando Norris McLaren 0.768s
8 Charles Leclerc Ferrari 0.958s
9 Pierre Gasly AlphaTauri 1.127s
10 Sebastian Vettel Aston Martin 1.311s
11 George Russell Williams 1:19.109
12 Antonio Giovinazzi Alfa Romeo Racing 1:19.216
13 Fernando Alonso Alpine 1:19.456
14 Yuki Tsunoda AlphaTauri 1:19.463
15 Kimi Raikkonen Alfa Romeo Racing 1:19.812
16 Daniel Ricciardo McLaren 1:19.839
17 Lance Stroll Aston Martin 1:19.913
18 Nicholas Latifi Williams 1:20.285
19 Mick Schumacher Haas 1:20.452
20 Nikita Mazepin Haas 1:20.912
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Post by MartinT on May 3, 2021 11:52:26 GMT
Yesterday's race was a good watch with the track looking like a real challenge and lacking in grip. Bottas stayed ahead at the start but could never really open a gap while Verstappen was constantly menacing and stayed ahead of Hamilton for a while. You could see Hamilton was waiting to pounce and he certainly did, pulling off two excellent overtakes, the one on Bottas being at the very limits of grip.
Norris drove well again while both Perez and Sainz were asked too much from their tyres and suffered as a consequence. Alonso has started turning on the talent but unfortunately not so Vettel.
Result
1 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes
2 Max Verstappen Red Bull 29.148s
3 Valtteri Bottas Mercedes 33.530s
4 Sergio Perez Red Bull 39.735s
5 Lando Norris McLaren 51.369s
6 Charles Leclerc Ferrari 55.781s
7 Esteban Ocon Alpine 63.749s
8 Fernando Alonso Alpine 64.808s
9 Daniel Ricciardo McLaren 75.461s
10 Pierre Gasly AlphaTauri 76.559s
11 Carlos Sainz Ferrari 79.060s
12 Antonio Giovinazzi Alfa Romeo Racing 1 lap
13 Sebastian Vettel Aston Martin 1 lap
14 Lance Stroll Aston Martin 1 lap
15 Yuki Tsunoda AlphaTauri 1 lap
16 George Russell Williams 1 lap
17 Mick Schumacher Haas 1 lap
18 Nicholas Latifi Williams 2 laps
19 Nikita Mazepin Haas 2 laps
Did not finish
Kimi Raikkonen Alfa Romeo crash
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Post by MikeMusic on May 3, 2021 15:13:28 GMT
Reading the BBC report it seems like Hamilton had golden balls and can walk on water  |
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Post by MartinT on May 3, 2021 15:58:23 GMT
Yes, Andrew Benson of the BBC Sport F1 pages is a Hamilton lover whereas PlanetF1 are a bit cooler about him. I read both to get my balance.
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Post by pre65 on May 4, 2021 13:14:51 GMT
Mazepin seems to be the most hated driver in F1 in recent times.
Rumour is that Haas wants to sell up and Mazepin snr will buy the team to keep his son in the drivers seat.
Also rumoured is that the Mercedes team will sell out to Ineos for next season.
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Post by MartinT on May 4, 2021 18:33:00 GMT
He's not liked, is he?
I would not be at all surprised if Haas pulls out. You've got to have extreme staying power to be in F1. Saying that, I didn't think they would fall to the very bottom of the pack.
As for Mercedes, it's anyone's guess. Toto Wolff part owns the team, so it rather depends on his moves. And also Hamilton.
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Post by MartinT on May 8, 2021 14:55:31 GMT
100 pole positions for Lewis Hamilton in Barcelona!
Times
1 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1:16.741
2 Max Verstappen Red Bull 0.036s
3 Valtteri Bottas Mercedes 0.132s
4 Charles Leclerc Ferrari 0.769s
5 Esteban Ocon Alpine 0.839s
6 Carlos Sainz Ferrari 0.879s
7 Daniel Ricciardo McLaren 0.881s
8 Sergio Perez Red Bull 0.960s
9 Lando Norris McLaren 1.269s
10 Fernando Alonso Alpine 1.406s
11 Lance Stroll Aston Martin 1:17.974
12 Pierre Gasly AlphaTauri 1:17.982
13 Sebastian Vettel Aston Martin 1:18.079
14 Antonio Giovinazzi Alfa Romeo Racing 1:18.356
15 George Russell Williams 1:19.154
16 Yuki Tsunoda AlphaTauri 1:18.556
17 Kimi Raikkonen Alfa Romeo Racing1:18.917
18 Mick Schumacher Haas 1:19.117
19 Nicholas Latifi Williams 1:19.219
20 Nikita Mazepin Haas 1:19.807
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Post by ant on May 8, 2021 14:59:20 GMT
Interesting that danny ric pulled nearly 4 tenths out on lando this time too
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Post by MartinT on May 8, 2021 20:02:46 GMT
Yes, it's a good sign. I've felt for him trying to get used to the McLaren and being very open about his difficulties.
All the drivers in new cars - Ricciardo, Vettel, Alonso, Perez, have struggled to a degree.
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Post by MartinT on May 9, 2021 16:20:37 GMT
That was a race of team strategy and relentless hunting down by Hamilton to give him the win in the face of a very fast Red Bull. Hamilton and Verstappen are in a class of their own compared with the other drivers. Bottas did not win over Toto Wolff by not letting Hamilton past when he was on a different strategy. I can see his days being numbered.
Result
1 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes
2 Max Verstappen Red Bull 15.841s
3 Valtteri Bottas Mercedes 26.610s
4 Charles Leclerc Ferrari 54.616s
5 Sergio Perez Red Bull 63.671s
6 Daniel Ricciardo McLaren 73.768
7 Carlos Sainz Ferrari 74.670s
8 Lando Norris McLaren 1 Lap
9 Esteban Ocon Alpine 1 Lap
10 Pierre Gasly AlphaTauri 1 Lap
11 Lance Stroll Aston Martin 1 Lap
12 Kimi Raikkonen Alfa Romeo Racing 1 lap
13 Sebastian Vettel Aston Martin 1 Lap
14 George Russell Williams 1 Lap
15 Antonio Giovinazzi1 Alfa Romeo Racing 1 Lap
16 Nicholas Latifi Williams 1 Lap
17 Fernando Alonso Alpine 1 Lap
18 Mick Schumacher Haas 1 Lap
19 Nikita Mazepin Haas 2 Laps
Did not finish
Yuki Tsunoda AlphaTauri engine
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Post by Clive on May 9, 2021 17:22:57 GMT
Yes, in heat of battle it was embarrassing for Bottas...ignoring team orders and then being so easily dispatched by Hamilton. Bottas will no doubt reasonably say the speed differential was due to tyres but in that case why decide to ignore team orders? He should pick his fights with the team carefully. He didn’t shine going for fastest lap either.
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Post by pre65 on May 11, 2021 9:36:01 GMT
Now that Hamilton is ready to sort out a new contract for next year, will he persuade Toto to keep Bottas as number 2 driver ?
The last thing Hamilton would want is a team mate capable of beating him on a regular basis.
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