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Post by ChrisB on Nov 25, 2019 6:42:52 GMT
Now that a few people here have switched their listening to almost or completely exclusively relying onstreaming, I am interested to know whether it has made you a bit more flighty in your habits.
I will explain.
I am wondering whether not having bought a physical embodiment of the music, you are a little less emotionally invested in it after a while? Six monthss after having discovered a new piece of music that you enjoy, are you less likely to go back and play it again, because it's not sitting there in a shelf to remind you that you bought it?
Have you, in some way moved on to something else new, or will you be playing that music for years to come?
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Post by MartinT on Nov 25, 2019 6:52:46 GMT
I try to emulate my old listening patterns as closely as possible, but the effect of streaming my music has been a far more eclectic mix of listening to the familiar and listening to new material.
What I have done is to create a dozen playlists, by genre, of all my favourite albums (just one representative track). I then play the track or can select album to play the album. This serves only as a memory jogger, I never actually use them as a playlist.
The freedom of having almost anything available to me (from Qobuz, Spotify and YouTube) is exhilarating and my musical wanderings can take me anywhere, spurred on by suggestions here in the What Are you Playing... threads, Album Choice, a couple of good Facebook groups and sometimes equipment reviews. More than ever, I can play by mood and not feel limited by what I had on my shelves.
The downside? I do miss album artwork and sleeve notes although Qobuz has some pretty good notes on every album it holds.
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Post by ChrisB on Nov 25, 2019 7:43:14 GMT
I love discovering new music, which is why I think streaming services are a fantastic opportunity for music lovers everywhere. But, I really do wonder whether this will have the effect of there being far less long term engagement with things.
You could liken it to a hungry kid rushing around a sweet shop trying out all of the new an exciting tastes and flavours, while neglecting to attend to the important business of long term nourishment.
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Post by MartinT on Nov 25, 2019 7:57:23 GMT
But, I really do wonder whether this will have the effect of there being far less long term engagement with things. That hasn't happened with me, Chris. My listening sessions have increased - I can tell as I've just looked at our electricity bill graphic compared with last year (minus the summer months) and it's up, all down to the underfloor heating in the music room as all else remains the same. |
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Post by ChrisB on Nov 25, 2019 9:59:38 GMT
That's good to hear. I wonder, what about other folks?
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Post by John on Nov 25, 2019 10:00:41 GMT
I don't feel that way Chris either I stay just as emotionally connected over the long term
For me it works since using streaming my music tastes have widened
For instance I now like modern cello music and artists like Max Richter
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Post by petea on Nov 25, 2019 10:06:42 GMT
I think at first it did change my listening as I too like to find new music, but that has dropped off significantly of late: I found I flicked about too much and found it not to be very satisfying. I find new music either through the reviews in HiFi News (really the only thing I read it it aside from the 'vintage' section), the odd newspaper, recommendations from friends and here on the forum, Radio Paradise (I listen when in Germany, but not so often in the UK) and live events (when the chance arrises). I then use streaming to preview it prior to buying either a CD, LP or a high resolution download. I don't often use streaming as a primary source as it were.
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Post by MikeMusic on Nov 25, 2019 12:26:02 GMT
Once I have come to the end of CDs that have never been on the system, still around 300 to go I might dabble with streaming again.
New to me music is plentiful and listening to my John Peel tapes has me searching out artists from some while ago.
When I see a sellers Ebay with albums I like I sample other of their albums. Artists I have never heard of. Have come across a few good ones this way.
I follow rabbits down holes on my own
After we watched The Motorcycle Diaries I searched out the soundtrack and was even more impressed.
Gustavo Santaolalla did most of it so I followed him into more magical soundtrack albums
Discovering he was a driving force in Bajofondo I followed him there. Never thought I would go for Tango or Electro Tango music
YouTube pops up with interesting artists, suggested when I sample
Streaming is a resource I don't yet need
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Post by MartinT on Nov 25, 2019 13:17:44 GMT
Two things I forgot to mention:
1. Radio Paradise is a fantastic resource and I listen at least twice a day on my commute (I stream it to the car via Bluetooth)
2. TuneFind is brilliant for tracking down that excellent song snippet you heard on your favourite TV drama
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Post by jandl100 on Nov 25, 2019 13:34:36 GMT
Streaming has fundamentally changed the way, and how much, I listen to music.
I always was rather baffled by the emotional attachments people seem to have to black or silver discs. Makes no sense to me at all, it never did.
So internet streaming is, quite literally, a dream come true for me.
My listening now is a voyage of constant discovery, aided and abetted by the wonderful search and linking capabilities of the streaming services.
I am much more likely to try something new than go back to an 'old favourite'.
I used to think I spent a lot of time listening, I'm spending even more time now and enjoying it more than ever.
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Post by ChrisB on Nov 25, 2019 13:57:53 GMT
Interesting responses so far, thanks.
As for me I haven't put many of my eggs in the streaming basket - I have never ditched a format in favour of another yet!
I continue to use streaming as I have since first trying Spotify in 2008. I use it mainly to find new music that I can buy. I listen to a fair bit and buy the albums I really like.
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Post by MartinT on Nov 25, 2019 14:09:42 GMT
Do you use Spotify elsewhere, Chris, or can you stream Spotify to your main system?
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Post by John on Nov 25, 2019 15:26:08 GMT
The big turning point that got me was when I getting streaming sounding better than I had Bug Head sounding I went from just playing the same files back to my passion for just hearing music
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Post by MartinT on Nov 25, 2019 15:55:51 GMT
The big turning point that got me was when I getting streaming sounding better than I had Bug Head sounding I went from just playing the same files back to my passion for just hearing music It was the same for me, John. I am attaining levels of sound quality I never reached with either CD/SACD or LPs. |
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Post by ChrisB on Nov 25, 2019 17:47:15 GMT
Do you use Spotify elsewhere, Chris, or can you stream Spotify to your main system? I have three Pis Martin. One of them is permanently attached to the system, which I only use for Spotify. The other two also get used for that, but additionally to gain to the files of ripped CDs that sit on a 2x 3TB hard drive. |
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Post by The Brookmeister on Nov 25, 2019 21:12:47 GMT
Now that a few people here have switched their listening to almost or completely exclusively relying onstreaming, I am interested to know whether it has made you a bit more flighty in your habits. I will explain. I am wondering whether not having bought a physical embodiment of the music, you are a little less emotionally invested in it after a while? Six monthss after having discovered a new piece of music that you enjoy, are you less likely to go back and play it again, because it's not sitting there in a shelf to remind you that you bought it? Have you, in some way moved on to something else new, or will you be playing that music for years to come? Streaming is pants, stick a record on any day, its impossible for streaming to sound as good as vinyl or R2R so why waste all your time and effort trying to polish a turd? |
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Post by John on Nov 25, 2019 21:31:36 GMT
I could easily argue that vinyl is a flawed medium but life is too short
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Post by MartinT on Nov 25, 2019 22:04:35 GMT
Give up your rant and try proper streaming, David!
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Post by ChrisB on Nov 26, 2019 0:18:52 GMT
Now that a few people here have switched their listening to almost or completely exclusively relying onstreaming, I am interested to know whether it has made you a bit more flighty in your habits. I will explain. I am wondering whether not having bought a physical embodiment of the music, you are a little less emotionally invested in it after a while? Six monthss after having discovered a new piece of music that you enjoy, are you less likely to go back and play it again, because it's not sitting there in a shelf to remind you that you bought it? Have you, in some way moved on to something else new, or will you be playing that music for years to come? Streaming is pants, stick a record on any day, its impossible for streaming to sound as good as vinyl or R2R so why waste all your time and effort trying to polish a turd? So your answer is "no" then? Thanks. A "no" would have done fine. It seems to be beyond your capabilities (or intentions) to make a positive contribution to this forum. |
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Post by jandl100 on Nov 26, 2019 6:56:15 GMT
Well, David lives in an exalted realm many levels above us humble serfs.
Good luck to him, I say.
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