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Post by SteveC on Feb 3, 2019 17:12:16 GMT
I can understand that.
The Entreq too, requires some period of time to come on song, whereas the RTZ effect is immediately discernible, although Tony says that it does get better, the longer it is left connected.
I'd bring these goodies to you but lugging the 22Kg of Entreq and 15Kg of Coherent RTZ is beyond my back at present.
Shame though, as it would have been an interesting exercise to compare three different design options!
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Post by MikeMusic on Feb 3, 2019 18:38:59 GMT
While I remember Steve another thing to get your head around Play an album you know well soon. Play it again in a few days time Discuss  |
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Post by MikeMusic on Sept 15, 2019 9:47:08 GMT
As Tony works through his metallurgic repertoire I tried out his latest top end cables for the RTZ, the BDU
They make a substantial difference.
Detail, separation and a big change in some albums that have the bass recorded properly.
Not cheap but now a permanent fixture in this system.
Auditions available !
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Post by MartinT on Sept 15, 2019 10:45:20 GMT
You're going down the RTZ route and I'm taking the Mad Scientist route. Both are fun and don't involve any component upgrades, so fit in with our 'final system' approach.
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Post by MikeMusic on Sept 15, 2019 13:51:35 GMT
Be interesting to see how they might work together, or not
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Post by MartinT on Sept 15, 2019 14:12:50 GMT
I'm pleased already with my grounding boxes. The MS stuff is incredible.
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Post by MikeMusic on Sept 15, 2019 15:44:30 GMT
Could the MS stuff be more about damping vibration ?
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Post by MartinT on Sept 15, 2019 15:48:14 GMT
Bob of MS claims it's about RFI reduction.
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Post by MikeMusic on Sept 15, 2019 15:51:50 GMT
As a novice outsider I think vibration is favourite
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Post by BilliumB on Nov 11, 2020 19:25:56 GMT
The SGS grounding box that I’ve just received from Jerry came with 2 cables that will enable simultaneous connection to 2 bits of kit.
Is this how people have used them (one grounding box connected to multiple bits of kit), or have you found it leads to ground loop problems (assuming additional ‘ground’ connections between the kit due to interconnects?
Cheers. Bill
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Post by MikeMusic on Nov 11, 2020 20:29:48 GMT
Assume you plug it into spare sockets on kit like my RTZ
Results on different sockets could be the same or different
From what I read here it takes a few hours for them and the SGS to really deliver
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Post by MartinT on Nov 12, 2020 11:03:55 GMT
I found it leads to ground loop problems (not hum, just a reduction in sound quality) and re-cabled my kit to have one grounding box per component (but multiple cables to different ground plane points are fine).
The SGS needs some time to settle.
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Post by BilliumB on Nov 12, 2020 12:07:01 GMT
I found it leads to ground loop problems (not hum, just a reduction in sound quality) and re-cabled my kit to have one grounding box per component (but multiple cables to different ground plane points are fine). The SGS needs some time to settle. Thanks Martin I guessed that might be the case. I'm slight muddled by your second point (different ground plane points) - could you say a bit more please? Cheers. Bill |
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Post by MartinT on Nov 12, 2020 12:11:44 GMT
One of my SGS boxes has four cables all going to different rear panel connectors on my Mutec reclocker. It helps with complex digital equipment.
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Post by BilliumB on Nov 12, 2020 13:52:42 GMT
One of my SGS boxes has four cables all going to different rear panel connectors on my Mutec reclocker. It helps with complex digital equipment. So in effect you are creating an additional star earth point at the grounding box (assuming the Mutec incorporates a star earth structure internally). Cheers. Bill |
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Post by MartinT on Nov 12, 2020 14:03:30 GMT
It's more that multiple cable runs to equipment generating a lot of ground plane noise helps.
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Post by BilliumB on Nov 12, 2020 20:48:22 GMT
Thanks Martin.
How many grounding boxes are you up to now?
Cheers. Bill
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Post by MartinT on Nov 12, 2020 21:11:29 GMT
Two x SGS and four x Black Ravioli.
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Post by zimmerman on Dec 22, 2020 22:52:36 GMT
I can report after 7 days of setting up my new RTZ2 from Tony at Coherent,it is sounding really good, especially transparency and better focus, both Bass and upper mid are at another level now.
I have 4 leads connected, 2 into the pre-amp inputs and 1 into the pre output and 1 to the Poweramps input. I also own a Gutwire ground lead which fires up my CD5.
Will report more info soon
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Post by MartinT on Dec 22, 2020 23:04:59 GMT
Hi Zimmerman and welcome to TAS. Glad to hear of another member who appreciates the value of grounding boxes. There really is no going back once you hear what they can do.
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