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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2019 16:17:53 GMT
That does look meaty!
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Post by Slinger on Nov 6, 2019 16:49:22 GMT
That is a nice-looking hunk of metal, Jules, and they do a rather tasty-looking matching DAC too.
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Post by julesd68 on Nov 6, 2019 18:01:32 GMT
That is a nice-looking hunk of metal, Jules, and they do a rather tasty-looking matching DAC too. Nope, that's not going to happen chez moi, the Topping D70 is staying put for a long time I hope! I will certainly look out for an AS passive, which are said to be of superior quality ...
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Post by jandl100 on Nov 6, 2019 19:01:07 GMT
The AS passives with XLR connections are said to be much more lively than when RCAs are used. I've owned RCA AS passives and imo they were quite an effective cure for insomnia.
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Post by Clive on Nov 6, 2019 19:17:44 GMT
Hi Jules,
I'm sure the amp is great. David Heaton is a great guy and smart with design. In terms of the passive I guess you're referring the AS Passion. I had one for years. It's a shunt type switched attenuator. The shunt resister was typically a Vishay either 7k5 or 15k. The value of this resistor made a huge tonal difference. The 7k5 being much fuller in the bass...but you lost some of the mega resolution of the 15k. I was forever swapping between resistors.
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Post by MartinT on Nov 6, 2019 19:22:20 GMT
Volumio settings for best sound: Playback: mixer set to None, Audio Resampling off Network: Wireless networking set to off System: HDMI set to off
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Post by julesd68 on Nov 6, 2019 19:27:44 GMT
Hi Jules, I'm sure the amp is great. David Heaton is a great guy and smart with design. In terms of the passive I guess you're referring the AS Passion. I had one for years. It's a shunt type switched attenuator. The shunt resister was typically a Vishay either 7k5 or 15k. The value of this resistor made a huge tonal difference. The 7k5 being much fuller in the bass...but you lost some of the mega resolution of the 15k. I was forever swapping between resistors. Thanks Clive, that's interesting. I was looking at the (remote controlled) Passion Ultimate - 10k Vishay I believe ..
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Post by Clive on Nov 6, 2019 19:29:20 GMT
10k may just be the sweetspot....
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Post by julesd68 on Nov 6, 2019 21:51:35 GMT
Volumio settings for best sound: Playback: mixer set to None, Audio Resampling off Network: Wireless networking set to off System: HDMI set to off Cheers M. Only thing I have had to turn off is Audio Resampling. Can't find an HDMI option anywhere ...
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Post by MartinT on Nov 6, 2019 22:00:58 GMT
The HDMI option is only in the Tinker Board build.
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Post by julesd68 on Nov 7, 2019 14:44:35 GMT
OMG - what a day makes!
So after a quick email exchange with AS I can confirm that this power amp actually needs a full 90 mins to achieve optimum warm-up, and what a difference this is as the sound takes a huge leap in overall resolution. The midband is altogether a different beast and opens up completely in terms of clarity and crispness; electric guitars now have a wonderfully authentic and crunchy sound to them. Drums kick harder and bass is better defined. Sound stage is absolutely massive, it’s a totally immersive experience.
In short, it rocks - I’m very happy indeed.
Today’s test playlist -
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Post by MartinT on Nov 7, 2019 14:51:19 GMT
That's good news, Jules. When I said that my Belles power amp takes 20 mins to warm up, it sounds very usable and is about all it gets on a weekday evening.
However, when I leave it on overnight for a Saturday session, it does gain appreciably in soundstage and presentation. It doesn't generate much heat so it takes all night to become tepid. Worse in winter.
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Post by John on Nov 7, 2019 16:52:42 GMT
So glad that this has worked out for you Jules
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2019 17:04:16 GMT
The AS passives with XLR connections are said to be much more lively than when RCAs are used. I've owned RCA AS passives and imo they were quite an effective cure for insomnia.
Hi Jerry
Indeed about on par with Meridian/Harbeth as having the same effect of injecting Mogadon directly into your eye balls
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Post by julesd68 on Nov 7, 2019 18:52:51 GMT
LOL. I see the potential for a new hit Netflix series " Tony & Jerry: the Passive Police. Let's get Active "
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Post by jandl100 on Nov 7, 2019 20:52:48 GMT
Hmm, yes, Tony and I have disconcertingly similar views on quite a few things audio. We must have been dropped on our heads from similar heights when we were babies.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2019 9:55:15 GMT
Hmm, yes, Tony and I have disconcertingly similar views on quite a few things audio. We must have been dropped on our heads from similar heights when we were babies. No letting on our secret please, they really do not need to know Here's a story for yer! Not so long ago an audio reviewer acquired a very well know passive pre amplifier (which will not be named) and proudly 'dropped in with' one afternoon to show how good it was. Bear in a mind the top of the line music first was demonstrated to myself by a then rep at the time, it struggled to give an £2K active a hard time in the majority of areas, although it was clearly i better in two, though the cost at that point was £8K. Back to reviewer chappie, plumbs it the system of the day waiting for my jaw to hit the floor, instead one channel was intermittent, the volume knob was shall we say intermittent as well, I had a quick look inside this new item and what do you know two signal wires had come adrift from the piss poor hand soldered joints. Now I know that particular unit went back to the manufacturers at least three times for rectification work in 4 months. We have had at least four of these units pass though this doors in the last couple of years all of which sell on the name without question, performance wise not so great. About on par with a respectable £1.5K pre amplifier. In all my time with audio in the last 30 years I have only ever listened to one passive pre amp that really cut the mustard and that was a very special Japanese device built as a bespoke order for a long standing school friend who now lives in Japan it was rather good, no remote either (mind you their rooms are not particularly large!) You do not wish to know the cost, but every aspect of outside interference and inside interference was throughly addressed and then some. Will ask the owner if he wishes to let me have some images to share with you guys. However that is the one and only time I will coincide to a passive pre, would still have an active but it is rather good.
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Post by MartinT on Nov 8, 2019 11:33:30 GMT
I'll have to join the club as I'm not a great fan of passives either.
Sorry Jules, back to your blog!
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Post by julesd68 on Nov 8, 2019 11:44:16 GMT
Not at all, it's all good stuff! Maybe Tony can design an active destroying passive - " Fluxed in Time Reference Volume Control" (known as the F.I.T. RVC ) Now there's a challenge ...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2019 13:33:18 GMT
Zero Challenge there Jules to be honest.
Though a few acronyms spring to mind:_
FTO-CRAPP Flux Takes Out Controversial Remote-less Average Passive Pre
SJC-PP's (Smooth Jazz cats Passive Pre's) give rise to increase to late worker syndrome
TVC Totally Valueless (sonically) Contraption
TVC Totally Vanilla Constipated sound
TVC Temazepam (induced) Viennese Cornet
Slightly risque here
TVC Transvestite's Variable Corset
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