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Post by speedysteve on Nov 16, 2017 17:56:01 GMT
Got Marie a Nokia 3.
Perfectly adequate. Just the same format as her Lenovo Yoga tablet.
In fact it offered to load up all the same apps as her tablet on setup.
Camera good. Very slim.
Great touch ergonomics and display for a really budget phone.
It was cheaper to have 200 mins / 5000txts / 1gb (with roll over) data and pay per month, than have a SIM only and buy it outright!
Marie's not a big phone user.
As I suspected the Nokia phone and mobile internet reception is OUTSTANDING!!!.
Where my Motorola, or is that Lenovo G5, has 1 or 0 bar(s) sig strength, the Nokia 3 has 3 bars!!!
What are the others pissing about at!
Samsung, Haewei, IPhone get out of here!
Even W phone was not as good!
I've still like my G5's fingerprint reader and gestures, shake twice for led torch on/off and turn over twice for camera. Excellent features..
Even on 0 bars I can make and receive calls.
All Android family now.
Oh, eldest daughter is an apple tart still though..
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Post by Tim on Nov 16, 2017 18:01:22 GMT
Always been a Nokia advocate and if they keep this up, my next phone will be a Nokia again - had nothing but until my Windows Phone, which was really a Nokia. I have a Motorola X-Force right now and I'm very pleased with it, dropped it a number of times and the advertised unbreakable screen is still intact! Vanilla Android is a big plus for me too.
Can you change the battery on the Nokia?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2017 18:08:24 GMT
A good cheap phone is Samsung 'J3' I scrapped the Apple  & bought one for work.. You can get em SIM free J3 |
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Post by speedysteve on Nov 16, 2017 19:37:19 GMT
Always been a Nokia advocate and if they keep this up, my next phone will be a Nokia again - had nothing but until my Windows Phone, which was really a Nokia. I have a Motorola X-Force right now and I'm very pleased with it, dropped it a number of times and the advertised unbreakable screen is still intact! Vanilla Android is a big plus for me too. Can you change the battery on the Nokia? I don't think you can remove the battery. The SIM and mem go in drawers on the side. I've never needed to replace a battery in the life time of a phone. New one every 2 years.. When I worked in phones it was a new one every couple of weeks  That said my ancient ( in phone terms) nearly 5 years old, Nokia 520 is still working as a music player.. Marie's old windows 640 phone will now go on Swedish radio server duty.. |
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Post by Tim on Nov 17, 2017 9:38:49 GMT
Been looking at the website and it seems none have removable backs for battery replacement. A new phone every two years does not work for me, I keep them for many years as I'm very concious of waste and my carbon footprint. It seems user replaceable batteries are being superseded by enforced redundancy. The mobile phone market is a prime example of the selfish disregard for sustainable use of resource and the power of corporate marketing. I dislike both. Please don't take that as a dig, it's a general statement  |
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Post by julesd68 on Nov 17, 2017 13:10:36 GMT
I bought a Lenovo P2 recently which I imported using Gearbest.com
4GB RAM & 64GB ROM.
Very, very happy with it so far. I bought it for two reasons - the battery, which is giving me 6 days use, and the beautiful full HD super AMOLED display.
It also has the latest Android OS update that the UK models doesn't have yet ...
Lots of angry P2 owners out there right now ...
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Post by MartinT on Nov 17, 2017 22:18:51 GMT
My Microsoft 950, which is a last gasp Nokia design, has a removable battery. So far there is no sign of it losing capacity.
It even picked up an update to 1709 last night.
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Post by MartinT on Nov 17, 2017 22:21:28 GMT
I bought it for two reasons - the battery, which is giving me 6 days use 5100mAH is a big battery, but even so that's impressive battery life. |
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Post by Tim on Nov 18, 2017 10:39:27 GMT
Shame you can't put Android on a 950 Martin, or can you jail break it?
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Post by speedysteve on Nov 18, 2017 21:31:41 GMT
Shame you can't put Android on a 950 Martin, or can you jail break it? The engineers ran android on Nokia phones to test and evaluate before the decision to go Windows was made. You'd need to be quite a DIY modder to do it. Go on Martin, I could probably track down some Finns to help. Don't think the Farnborough guys had any part of it. |
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Post by MartinT on Nov 18, 2017 23:40:22 GMT
Shame you can't put Android on a 950 Martin, or can you jail break it? Think I'll enjoy it as-is until it dies and will then swap to Android. There is a nice guide on making an Android phone fit the Microsoft ecosystem here and here. |
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Post by Tim on Nov 19, 2017 22:31:11 GMT
Interesting, didn't know you could do that, good for thought.
My Windows phone is a satnav at the moment with Here Maps, bloody good actually and much easier to use than my Garmin.
I guess when the maps become obsolete, I could try that.
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Post by MartinT on Nov 20, 2017 7:01:27 GMT
My Windows phone is a satnav at the moment with Here Maps Even when Here Maps was removed and replaced with Bing Maps, it's still a very good sat-nav system and handles downloading of maps (for no data usage), driving, walking and taking the train as well as being free. |
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Post by speedysteve on Nov 27, 2017 19:16:09 GMT
A Nokia 5 was visiting today.
They are down to £129.
Nice phone. 5.2" screen.
Like a of soap without a protective cover..
It did not have anything like as good network coverage inside the house as Marie's Nokia 3.
Same network!
We even swapped SIM cards to be sure.
This was observed using SIM status to look at dB and ASU levels rather than how many bars were on the front screen. The latter is notoriously inaccurate.
It was on a par with my G5. Coverage and could make and receive calls but not outstanding like the Nokia 3.
It does not surprise me. The internal layout will be different for each model depending on HW constraints - The all important antenna placement etc gets compromised.
Could be the bigger battery or fingerprint reader for example.
They could also have been done by different design teams..
I looked at a Nokia 6 in Carphone warehouse - £199. Nice big screen.
Quite angular Ali case surround..
Has dual camera tech that's supposed to be very good.
I'm still on the trusty Moto G5.
Love the shake gesture for torch and flip twice for camera. Although all recent android's have 2 power button press for camera, I think.
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Post by puffin on Nov 29, 2017 7:43:26 GMT
I have a Nokia 640 which is now pretty useless. I did upgrade to Win 10, big mistake, so I wiped that and re-installed Win 8, after which my emails would not sync and I could not delete my email account. Just ordered a G5 at £119.
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Post by speedysteve on Nov 29, 2017 8:57:06 GMT
I have a Nokia 640 which is now pretty useless. I did upgrade to Win 10, big mistake, so I wiped that and re-installed Win 8, after which my emails would not sync and I could not delete my email account. Just ordered a G5 at £119. That's a good deal. Hope you like it. Yeah things like messenger disappearing, Tapatalk going etc etc, were the death nail for me. It was a slippery slope which became a vertical slope with the MS W phone pull out. Lots of potential but you can exist on that.. |
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Post by puffin on Dec 1, 2017 8:46:38 GMT
Got my Moto G5 yesterday, still getting to grips with it, but it makes calls, gets emails and makes tea and toast so can't grumble. Seems to have a lot of Apps that at face value don't seem for me, some you can disable, some you can't....maybe because you might not know what they do , but you need them anyway.
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Post by speedysteve on Dec 1, 2017 12:50:24 GMT
Got my Moto G5 yesterday, still getting to grips with it, but it makes calls, gets emails and makes tea and toast so can't grumble. Seems to have a lot of Apps that at face value don't seem for me, some you can disable, some you can't....maybe because you might not know what they do , but you need them anyway. There are Settings and Google you want to keep them - not even sure you can delete them? The rest are up to you. You can just remove the ones you don't want on the front screen(s). They'll still be there and you can get to them by swiping up from the lower split screen indicated bye a ^ You can also pop multiple app icons into one icon to save screen space, you still see them but smaller. I've got all my news apps in one, radio and media in another etc. I don't miss the live tiles anymore. You get used to using the notification section at the top of the screen. The torch and camera gestures are great on the G5. Screenshot capture of power button and Vol down button is useful. I take a lot of photos and found a resized app great to reduce storage need for some pics. |
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Post by puffin on Dec 1, 2017 18:19:27 GMT
Thanks for that Steve. I have done the torch and camera doodah's.....brilliant. I always thought when I used the Nokia..."what if I needed to take a quick pick...say of someone being murdered"...it would take all day  I have just found out that my mate has a Moto 4 and he is a computer and any electronics (apart from hifi ) wizz, he said he would "sort me out". |
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Post by speedysteve on Dec 5, 2017 17:04:53 GMT
Well, I had the chance to test the Nokia 5 for an extended period.
Customised it with all my apps etc.
The long and the short of it is.
1. With its 5.2" long screen it is a pretty long bar phone. I found it too long to be comfortably in my jeans pocket and sit. The stubbier Lenovo Moto G5 wins in that area.
2. The Nokia display is great, clear almost edge to edge.
3. Batt life the Nokia has it by a whisker.
4. The all important signal strength.
In moderate reception areas you'd never know a difference.
In very poor areas the Nokia just squeaks it. But it is really close
5. I found the G5 to have a slightly more responsive and easier to control touch experience.
For example if you want to highlight a part of a line of txt to copy, it's easy with the G5.
The Nokia would leave me pressing the screen again and again cursing trying to pick up the word or lines I wanted. Sometimes, frustratingly to no avail.
6. The camera; really quite similar.
Nokia may squeak in low light but both are fine for me..
7. Uncluttered android. Both are fine.
The Nokia runs 7.1.1. the G5 7.0. the difference some security patches that I'd like but it doesn't look like Lenovo thinks them important enough for me to bother with..
8. Button placement. I found being a lefty, the buttons on the Nokia are too far up the long phone to be where I need then. The G5 they are just right
9. Already talked about gestures etc..
G5 wins hands down in that dept.
Both have a finger print reader.
Not overly keen on the Nokia's middle button and fingerprint reader combined, felt sort of clumsy at times..
So there you have it..
Similarly priced / spec'd. But the older G5 wins for me..
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& bought one for work.. You can get em SIM free
