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Post by scotty38 on May 10, 2018 11:23:04 GMT
Sort of, and car manufacturers do that already.
The difference, I believe, is that here we're talking about a relatively minimal cost upgrade making a difference big enough to charge a lot for. I just have a hard time accepting why HiFi manufacturers haven't, on the whole, jumped on this gravy train.
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Post by julesd68 on May 10, 2018 11:32:48 GMT
It's a good question - maybe the manufacturers see fuses a bit like cables, which are system dependent and where fine tuning is up to the punter to decide what works best for them ... Just pure speculation of course!
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Post by John on May 10, 2018 11:54:46 GMT
On phone so cannot copy YouTube link just search audiophile fuses and Paul from PS Audio explains what they do
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Post by TheMooN on May 10, 2018 12:25:30 GMT
A little lite reading......Warning...Includes measurments link
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Post by TheMooN on May 10, 2018 12:28:25 GMT
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Post by MartinT on May 10, 2018 16:03:52 GMT
A little lite reading......Warning...Includes measurments Thanks for that. Shame the report is a bit old now. I like the 2A fuse that blows at 800mA
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Post by TheMooN on May 10, 2018 17:52:34 GMT
Yes, a shame regarding chronology that more recent production fuses are not included........The lack of recidivist static is deafening !
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Post by scotty38 on May 11, 2018 10:42:23 GMT
Thanks for the links etc but as I suggested, on the whole, it appears very quiet on the front of "product enhancement" due to fuse technology.
Do you know if PS always had this approach in their products and if not were newer products priced the same as those that had previously gone without?
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Post by TheMooN on May 11, 2018 10:43:01 GMT
A little lite reading......Warning...Includes measurments link@davec...As someone rather keen on measuring an SR fuse I am wondering what are your considerations upon the linked to document.
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Post by John on May 11, 2018 17:51:01 GMT
Just imagine what a different thread this would be if it was part of a loan scheme, it be based on experiences
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Post by DaveC on May 11, 2018 22:05:53 GMT
A little lite reading......Warning...Includes measurments link@davec...As someone rather keen on measuring an SR fuse I am wondering what are your considerations upon the linked to document. They didn't measure much at all ! Certainly no 8% improvement in output SPL ? My offer at HiFi World is still open. Dave
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Post by TheMooN on May 12, 2018 2:26:49 GMT
@davec...As someone rather keen on measuring an SR fuse I am wondering what are your considerations upon the linked to document. They didn't measure much at all ! Certainly no 8% improvement in output SPL ? My offer at HiFi World is still open. Dave Could you expand further please? What additional measurments and under what operating conditions would you yourself conduct? Why do you not acquire an SR fuse on the manufacturers 30 day return policy for yourself ? It would cost you less than £5 to return the fuse by post for a full refund as well as being inordinately more informed than you are at present ? As a bonus You may also advise us as to your own personal subjective listening observations .
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Post by DaveC on May 12, 2018 3:18:02 GMT
They didn't measure much at all ! Certainly no 8% improvement in output SPL ? My offer at HiFi World is still open. Dave Could you expand further please? What additional measurements and under what operating conditions would you yourself conduct? Why do you not acquire an SR fuse on the manufacturers 30 day return policy for yourself ? It would cost you less than £5 to return the fuse by post for a full refund as well as being inordinately more informed than you are at present ? As a bonus You may also advise us as to your own personal subjective listening observations . I want to measure your claimed "A measured and calculated 8%" in SPL, remember ?? You keep asking me the same question and I will keep giving you the same answer................ And in the future I will continue to do so, until you finally let me validate your "measured and calculated" claims. Then we might all be a lot wiser, one way or the other ?
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Post by TheMooN on May 12, 2018 5:04:00 GMT
What the hell are you carping on about? I have already explained to you how I arrived at that rudementory Measurment, In my room and with my equipment,
How do you propose to replicate that ?
You seem to be fixated upon " validating" said rudimentary calculation as tho that would in some way serve your barely disguised disdain for the opinion of anyone actually using aftermarket fuses in their own systems. I am pretty sure that adopters of these products don't give a flying F**K about my own personal calculation and even less about your rather tedious fixation upon it.
You claim that you wish to perform your own set of measurments yet continue to provaricate over obtaining a sample to examine and evaluate for yourself, even were you to do so are you think that you would miraculously influence the real world audible expeariances of anyone that has actually experimented with these products.
I ask you again...What further set of measurments would you perform beyond those set out in the document that I linked to ? And what would that prove ?
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Post by AlanS on May 12, 2018 6:30:54 GMT
Carping on about, claim, conceited. Someone seems to be a diplomat. Nobel prize for peace. Someone could benefit from learning about civility
Perhaps have a few days away enjoying your fuses and come back refreshed by their invigoration.
If that is what fuse love does for you I am avoiding them completely.
DaveC has created things some enjoy. You quote a paper someone else has devised. I think you don't even have an inkling what the figures it quotes are about.
Apologies Dave that you have to put up with this ignorant member.
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Post by MartinT on May 12, 2018 8:50:53 GMT
That's enough on both sides, please. TheMooN you've said it now and I don't think it would ever be possible to replicate by measurement such a personal finding, so please let it rest. DaveC there are plenty of things that *could* be measured and the quoted paper at least made a better attempt at it than I've seen elsewhere. AlanS please don't make it worse.
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Post by TheMooN on May 12, 2018 9:23:49 GMT
You appear to be either unaware of, or blatantly disregarding, a few simple words that make up a couple of sentences, I fear it is not I that is ignorant AlanS as you appear to be unable to addiquatly comprehend them. 3. Never attack another member. Arguing the idea (politely) is fine, but no personal insults please. 4. Deliberate and continued trolling for the purposes of causing upset to other members will be very quickly prevented from escalating. Read more: theaudiostandard.net/thread/3/forum-rules#ixzz5FHE7OYpv
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Post by John on May 12, 2018 10:13:30 GMT
Okay I have moderated two posts on this page. Now you both need to move on.
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Post by TheMooN on May 12, 2018 11:52:08 GMT
And back on track...As I was swapping out the SR Blue on the current rail of my ARC Ref10 for an AM Beeswax Ultimate I thought that I might as well take a happy snap at the time, Mighty Blingy box LoL.
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Post by MartinT on May 12, 2018 13:01:54 GMT
Better get it running. Report back after 125 hours of break-in!
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