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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2018 13:08:29 GMT
You don't have to post.... Neither do you Scotty MOD: no need!
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Post by MartinT on Apr 9, 2018 13:09:43 GMT
Let's not get into any more ad hominem, please. If there is nothing new to post, then leave it.
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Post by scotty38 on Apr 9, 2018 13:18:16 GMT
You don't have to post.... Neither do you Scotty MOD: no need!But I'm not the one claiming to be bored of the thread....
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Post by MikeMusic on Apr 9, 2018 15:02:20 GMT
Dear Deirdre
Swapping the SR Blue fuse into my one external fuse was simple and quick. The results were well worth the time and dough.
Now I want to open up my kit to check what internal fuses I have and therein lies the problem. No music while I turn it all off, disconnect everything, take panels off, examine minutely and double check before putting it all back together.
How can I do without music for that amount of time ?
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Post by Slinger on Apr 9, 2018 15:12:12 GMT
Dear Deirdre Swapping the SR Blue fuse into my one external fuse was simple and quick. The results were well worth the time and dough. Now I want to open up my kit to check what internal fuses I have and therein lies the problem. No music while I turn it all off, disconnect everything, take panels off, examine minutely and double check before putting it all back together. How can I do without music for that amount of time ? Obvious, get a 2 nd, 3 rd, and 4 th system like the rest of us bloody lunatics, Mike.
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Post by MikeMusic on Apr 9, 2018 15:26:31 GMT
Dear Deirdre Swapping the SR Blue fuse into my one external fuse was simple and quick. The results were well worth the time and dough. Now I want to open up my kit to check what internal fuses I have and therein lies the problem. No music while I turn it all off, disconnect everything, take panels off, examine minutely and double check before putting it all back together. How can I do without music for that amount of time ? Obvious, get a 2 nd, 3 rd, and 4 th system like the rest of us bloody lunatics, Mike. Now that's a thought yours truly didn't have and stating the bleedin obvious now you have said it. Off and disconnect, into the other room with that SMSL you conned me into buying and work on a table with movable light Duh ! The time without music might be something I can deal with...... BTW what have you done to Deirdre ?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2018 20:06:11 GMT
Dear Deirdre Swapping the SR Blue fuse into my one external fuse was simple and quick. The results were well worth the time and dough. Now I want to open up my kit to check what internal fuses I have and therein lies the problem. No music while I turn it all off, disconnect everything, take panels off, examine minutely and double check before putting it all back together. How can I do without music for that amount of time ? Why don't you just look up the specs on the internet, or contact the dealer who sold the equipment to you, or ask the manufacturer. No need to open anything up until you have the right fuse then.
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Post by Greg on Apr 9, 2018 22:02:08 GMT
I’ve just re-read this thread from the top of this page. I can’t believe the hipocracy associated with what is being written currently on the fuse thread. Just shows the absolute nonsense of all of it, including you, moderators!
MOD: What hypocrisy? Why are you commenting on the fuse thread here?
Buy different fuses......oh you mean those ones that do not conform to British Standard but apparently, according to you, make a system sound better so they are ok to use???
They are probably less safe than a soldered fuse wire across the live fuse terminals, interestingly a practice you advise against and something you recommend not to do! In contrast, illegal fuses apparently are very much ok!
House won’t burn down, (well you did mention insurance) will it?
MOD: house burn down? With a fuse certified in the USA?
I wished, but I could never have made it up.
MOD: what you couldn't make up is this drivel that adds nothing to the discussion except to show you up for a troll. Making your rabid comments in this thread instead of the fuse thread just confirms it. One more post like this and you're gone.
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Post by MikeMusic on Apr 10, 2018 13:32:55 GMT
Dear Deirdre Swapping the SR Blue fuse into my one external fuse was simple and quick. The results were well worth the time and dough. Now I want to open up my kit to check what internal fuses I have and therein lies the problem. No music while I turn it all off, disconnect everything, take panels off, examine minutely and double check before putting it all back together. How can I do without music for that amount of time ? Why don't you just look up the specs on the internet, or contact the dealer who sold the equipment to you, or ask the manufacturer. No need to open anything up until you have the right fuse then. I have. Want to be 100% certain before trying them
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Post by MikeMusic on Apr 10, 2018 15:39:36 GMT
May be a useful tip or two here for others
Here I am being 100% certain on internal fuses. Just for a change this is way more long winded than it ought to be.
Took the cover off one Belles Mono. Could I find a fuse ? Could I buggery. Glasses on, LED light all over. There is no fuse. Looked around the IEC socket and power cables in. Nope.
Hang on, that IEC socket is a bit big. I remember once I found an internal/external fuse on something in the IEC socket. There it is. Pop it out. Yes !
Next issue. Printed on the back panel 3.5A Slo Blo So straightforward. Just check the actual fuse "ET4AL 250VP" Which to me says 4 Amps or does it ?
Checked the Isis a while back but forgot it has 2 fuses easily locatable from outside. "Digital" and "Analogue" Vague memory tells me DAC and CD. Need to check that.
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Post by MartinT on Apr 10, 2018 16:58:25 GMT
My Belles has the same fuseholder integrated into the IEC socket. It could well have a 4A fuse in place of 3.5A as the latter is an unusual value.
The Isis probably has split digital and analogue power supplies and would use both for CD and DAC replay.
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Post by MikeMusic on Apr 10, 2018 17:13:11 GMT
Thanks Have seen .5A higher than the rating used before. Unnerving though
Hopefully I only need one for CD - please. Yet to confirm
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Post by MartinT on Apr 10, 2018 17:34:06 GMT
CD uses both digital and analogue circuits. Just saying...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2018 2:17:05 GMT
Tbh when replacing fuses I just speak to the manufacturer, saves any ambiguity.
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Post by Chris on Apr 11, 2018 4:34:12 GMT
But then it's inside the feedback loop. What I'm saying is, that the scientific evidence so far produced here, is largely incorrect. I did offer to measure the "A measured and calculated 8%" and I believe that is where I came in ? Lol, So your cunning plan would involve me dismantling my music system for god knows how long, trusting £60000 of amplification to the tender care of a shipping company to be delivered to an individual not personally known to me ? Let me think about that one All Instead of simply acquiring an SR Blue fuse ( at less cost than available to most ) and conducting your own experimentation ! Where does 60k amplification come from? Cambridge Audio stream magic 6, Seagate nas drive, Sony X559ES CD Player, Michell Gyrodec SE, SME309, London pro., Denon DL103, Primare R32, Musical Fidelity A5, Sugden Headmaster headphone/pre-amp, Class D power amp, Shanling dac 50, Roksan Darius speakers, Kef Calinda speakers, Target R1's, Atacama Equinox.
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Post by TheMooN on Apr 11, 2018 12:04:02 GMT
Missed that Chris...ARC Ref10 into ARC Ref250se X2.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2018 18:46:40 GMT
I’ve just re-read this thread from the top of this page. I can’t believe the hipocracy associated with what is being written currently on the fuse thread. Just shows the absolute nonsense of all of it, including you, moderators! MOD: What hypocrisy? Why are you commenting on the fuse thread here?Buy different fuses......oh you mean those ones that do not conform to British Standard but apparently, according to you, make a system sound better so they are ok to use??? They are probably less safe than a soldered fuse wire across the live fuse terminals, interestingly a practice you advise against and something you recommend not to do! In contrast, illegal fuses apparently are very much ok! House won’t burn down, (well you did mention insurance) will it? MOD: house burn down? With a fuse certified in the USA?I wished, but I could never have made it up. MOD: what you couldn't make up is this drivel that adds nothing to the discussion except to show you up for a troll. Making your rabid comments in this thread instead of the fuse thread just confirms it. One more post like this and you're gone.I think what Greg was trying to say is that fuse wire is tested to BS standards, but the advice was not to change the fuse for a bit of fuse wire, but on another thread the lack of BS certification on a fuse does not bother you That is the hypocrisy. I also remember the discussion about cadmium, which is a banned substance in Europe and a post was made about this, but a fuse without BS certification is fine. If this view bothers you, then it is probably best that I leave you guys at TAS in peace.
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Post by Chris on Apr 11, 2018 19:16:48 GMT
Nice
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Post by MartinT on Apr 11, 2018 19:17:24 GMT
I think what Greg was trying to say is that fuse wire is tested to BS standards, but the advice was not to change the fuse for a bit of wire, but on another thread the lack of BS certification on a fuse does not bother you That is the hypocrisy. No it isn't. I have been careful to remain quite consistent. A fuse is a fuse, especially if it has certification somewhere in the world. It will blow at approximately its fusible current. Whether it has BS certification (which is just for the UK) is entirely irrelevant as to whether it will behave like a fuse. A bit of wire is no such thing and will not fuse at a reasonable current to protect both the equipment and its owner. If this view bothers you, then it is probably best that I leave you guys at TAS in peace. It's the consistently poorly argued 'points' that bother me, and the sniff that most of this bollocks originates from elsewhere. If you wish to leave, then go.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2018 20:03:25 GMT
Guest was referring to fuse wire, which conforms to BS standards. He was told not to post any more about this.
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