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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2018 20:08:59 GMT
Perhaps by remaining more linear and stiff on the current rail blockage point that is a fuse over a bogo 20p fuse during high current demand to the power supply bank ? By being less susceptible to and performing more efficiently as the thermal load on the fusible material rises ? Remember...the life blood that is the current supply to ones equipment is flowing through that few MM of wire and conductors! A measured and calculated 8% Wonkey, you might also conduct the same experimentation with one of the fuses on the current rail of your pre or power for the cost of a few Euro to return the fuse. However you are not here for that are you ? Isn’t that why we have capacitors in the power supply, in order to have smoothing of the peaks?
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Post by TheMooN on Apr 5, 2018 20:29:13 GMT
A premature ejaculation by scotty then......It doesn't look good ;-) I was responding to someone else's post so please don't address me with your smut... Really Rather weak as a back peddle to your premature glee there scotty?
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Post by scotty38 on Apr 5, 2018 20:35:05 GMT
I was responding to someone else's post so please don't address me with your smut... Really Rather weak as a back peddle to your premature glee there scotty? What on earth are you talking about, back pedal from what exactly? You can see the post I quoted and it wasn't yours. Complete and utter nonsense from you as usual but then again I expect no less.
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Post by TheMooN on Apr 5, 2018 20:45:59 GMT
Really Rather weak as a back peddle to your premature glee there scotty? What on earth are you talking about, back pedal from what exactly? You can see the post I quoted and it wasn't yours. Complete and utter nonsense from you as usual but then again I expect no less. Oh dear.....Your reply may have been in responce to a post from another member....But the subject and implication of your post was somewhat gleefully directed toward myself. Try paying attention to the posting time line, that goes for pre as well, as Ripply asked in Aliens " Did IQs just drop sharply while I was away "
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Post by MartinT on Apr 5, 2018 20:48:24 GMT
Ok, let's please leave it there, shall we?
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Post by DaveC on Apr 5, 2018 21:36:45 GMT
A measured and calculated 8% Could you tell me how you measured it and what did you use to measure it with please ? And the reference to "calculated" what was the calculation and how were the numbers obtained ? And please remind me of the fuse type/size/rating and in what position and I'll replicate it here to validate your results.
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Post by scotty38 on Apr 5, 2018 21:48:09 GMT
What on earth are you talking about, back pedal from what exactly? You can see the post I quoted and it wasn't yours. Complete and utter nonsense from you as usual but then again I expect no less. as Ripply asked in Aliens " Did IQs just drop sharply while I was away " They certainly haven't increased with your return, that's for sure!
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Post by ChrisB on Apr 5, 2018 21:53:46 GMT
I would suggest that Mr Moon was not really posting for the benefit of this forum Dave.
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Post by ChrisB on Apr 5, 2018 21:55:20 GMT
And with that, I am locking this thread. It may, or may not, be re-opened at some time in the future.
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Post by MartinT on Apr 6, 2018 7:07:11 GMT
I have now unlocked this thread. Please heed the Forum Notice about trolling. This thread is for the discussion of fuses and their claimed sound qualities only. There will be no trolling, no discussion of certification or any other distraction from the merits of using one in a hi-fi system.
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Post by ChrisB on Apr 6, 2018 7:12:42 GMT
For the avoidance of doubt, the above also applies to the use of TAS as a vehicle for poking a stick elsewhere.
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Post by Nanook on Apr 6, 2018 7:28:53 GMT
Well im glad the fuse files are once again open.....
As stated earlier, I heard a marked improvement in sound when I upgraded the 13A fuse in my cdp's plug top.
DaveC mentioned perhaps measurement could confirm an improvement in sound quality.....Well it couldnt, it would at best show a difference (for better or worse) in a set of measurement values.
Your ears, thats the only measuring tools you need.
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Post by DaveC on Apr 6, 2018 7:46:42 GMT
DaveC mentioned perhaps measurement could confirm an improvement in sound quality.....Well it couldnt, it would at best show a difference (for better or worse) in a set of measurement values. No I did not say that at all, for a very good reason. I spoke with leading Journalists about this issue at the Bristol Show and we are all sitting on the fence. My response to TaS member TheMoon who wrote : "Post implementation of the Blue fuses I am hitting the same in room measured dB levels at the same points within my reference tracks with 8% less attenuation," and more specifically "A measured and calculated 8%" Hence my request for details so we would all know : "Could you tell me how you measured it and what did you use to measure it with please ? And the reference to "calculated" what was the calculation and how were the numbers obtained ? And please remind me of the fuse type/size/rating and in what position and I'll replicate it here to validate your results." ChrisB then said "I would suggest that Mr Moon was not really posting for the benefit of this forum Dave." A lot of people read this forum and are looking for information, help and advice. It's one thing to say I heard a difference and quite another to say I measured it. Dave
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Post by MartinT on Apr 6, 2018 7:49:37 GMT
My personal opinion is that I doubt the subtle audible effects can be measured with current equipment, any more than subtle cable differences can be measured.
It's better to focus on what they can do for sound quality and musical flow. After all, that's what a hi-fi system is for.
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Post by MartinT on Apr 6, 2018 7:50:16 GMT
As stated earlier, I heard a marked improvement in sound when I upgraded the 13A fuse in my cdp's plug top. Which fuse did you use, Nanook?
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Post by Nanook on Apr 6, 2018 8:01:54 GMT
Sorry martin I cant remember the make, I purchased them off ebay 3 for £40 if memory serves.
Not the top notch ones which I would love to try.
If you wish, I could dig out a screwdriver and check for you later.
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Post by MartinT on Apr 6, 2018 8:09:00 GMT
If you wish, I could dig out a screwdriver and check for you later. That would be good to know for those looking for an inexpensive solution.
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Post by brian2957 on Apr 6, 2018 8:26:19 GMT
As like to try things for myself I bought two SR Black 13A fuses 2nd hand from Ebay . I fitted them into the plug feeding my mains block and amplifier . I left them in there for approximately six weeks . Yes , they did change the SQ of my system , particularly in the areas of weight , midrange and overall smoothness which was initially very pleasing to my ears . The other day I removed the SR fuses and replaced them with bog standard 13A fuses and listened for a day and I must say I prefer the SQ of my system with the ordinary fuses fitted over the SR Black fuses . My system sounds a bit ' cleaner ' than before . Not as much weight , but I believe that along with the added weight my system sounded slightly ' thick ' and veiled with the SR Black fuses fitted . Obviously these observations are based on my system and my ears . Others seem to have had a different experience from me with their own systems . The SR Black fuses were snapped up on Ebay at a minimal loss to me
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Post by MartinT on Apr 6, 2018 8:32:45 GMT
That's interesting, Brian. The SR Blacks do seem to have a reputation as the 'black sheep' of the range! I don't have any so can't comment. I will say that the Reds take a little settling down but the Blues seem to perform straight out of the box.
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Post by ChrisB on Apr 6, 2018 8:51:53 GMT
Thanks for that Brian. It's affirmation that my policy of going back to check after the honeymoon period is over is a vital step in the process of making changes to your system. It's not always going to be possible but people really ought to do it whenever they are able to.
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