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Post by Chris on Jan 5, 2017 20:50:13 GMT
Homemade speed bumps.
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Post by pre65 on Jan 6, 2017 11:10:00 GMT
They're too busy catching 'irresponsible criminals' doing 7mph over the limit.
If your wife, or child were hit at 37 mph (in a 30 zone) how would you feel ?
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Post by MartinT on Jan 6, 2017 11:25:31 GMT
Pah - I pay taxes for our Police force to catch criminals, not for lazy revenue collection activities.
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Post by pre65 on Jan 6, 2017 11:40:42 GMT
Pah - I pay taxes for our Police force to catch criminals, not for lazy revenue collection activities.
I'm sure that the country as a whole would be a worse place if all the Police did was catch "criminals". Don't get me wrong, I think more money and effort should be spent on "catching criminals", but not at the expense of all their other duties.
Perhaps Greg can give his view on this, from the horses mouth so to speak.  |
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Post by mikeyb on Jan 6, 2017 12:12:37 GMT
Egged on by the idiot Clarkson and crew. No social responsibility. The sooner driverless cars are compulsory the better. I might live to regret that statement but we'll see Did you see the story about the driver less car exponent in USA? His car failed to detect a truck pulling across it's path with fatal consequences. I can see a massacre resulting from this as computers always go wrong eventually. He was driving it at the time  |
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Post by MartinT on Jan 6, 2017 13:51:02 GMT
So, if speed limits were never enforced you would be happy ? Not what I'm saying. It's the application of common sense that is lacking. If I'm doing 47 in a 40 (for which I was NIP'd), I am not a rabid proto-killer that requires an entire infrastructure to come down hard on me. If I am madly switching lanes on the motorway, causing heavy braking and winning a one car-length advantage over 10 miles then I would expect the Police to get involved. However, it's much easier to catch speeding motorists by jumping out from behind hedges than do the real policing that is required. They are simply never there when you see idiot things happening on the roads. And don't get me started on motorway speeds. How can I be thoroughly irresponsible if I drive on a wide three-lane UK motorway at 80 but be perfectly fine and an upstanding citizen on a narrow German motorway at 120? Sensible speed doesn't kill. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2017 14:10:49 GMT
They're too busy catching 'irresponsible criminals' doing 7mph over the limit. You need to watch it round here because most roads are now 20 mph. Now nearly 50% over would be serious stuff, equivalent to 100 mph on the motorway. Got done in 2015 for 4 mph over in 30 limit. Sure it was just after I left the 40 limit. Cruise control now has unintended uses. |
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Post by MartinT on Jan 6, 2017 14:30:01 GMT
Yes, I use cruise control a lot on the motorways and through road works. Well aware of how easy it is to get caught because we make easy targets for the police quotas.
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Post by MikeMusic on Jan 6, 2017 15:49:05 GMT
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Post by Tim on Jan 6, 2017 15:53:51 GMT
They're too busy catching 'irresponsible criminals' doing 7mph over the limit. Not anymore they're not Martin, unless you are referring to cameras, which are nothing to do with the police and the limits on those are set by the home office |
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Post by Tim on Jan 6, 2017 15:57:28 GMT
Simple fact, excess speed costs lives. You drive a boy racerish car and like speed, so you are going to get caught one day. I have never had a speeding ticket in my life and hope to maintain that.
Jumping out from bushes, come on Martin, that's a rather old cliché old bean. Anyway, driving slower saves fuel and the planet, what's not to like there?
If you hadn't been speeding you wouldn't have been caught, and Traffic police enforce trafiic law, that's there job. Detectives and specialist squads investigate major and organised crime, cos that's there job. Unless you are saying a bored or lazy detective was hiding in a bush waiting for you?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2017 15:59:54 GMT
I got caught by a mobile camera which must have been held by the police. They hide round corners. Most forces have several mobile speed units but your chances of meeting one are fairly slim. Any numpty should be able to spot the stationary cameras and slow down.
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Post by Tim on Jan 6, 2017 16:03:49 GMT
Those mobile cameras are safety camera partnership teams, not staffed by police, just civilians and the whole tickets system is run by civilians. You are attacking the wrong people.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2017 16:24:26 GMT
Safety Camera Teams have no powers of arrest and can only report speeding to police who then can issue a warning only. Notices of prosecution can only be issued in cases where the police clock you speeding. Since I attended a speeding course I am well up to date. You can check the facts on-line. www.speedcamerasuk.com/mobile-speed-camera.htm |
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Post by Tim on Jan 6, 2017 16:34:57 GMT
That's exactly what I'm saying, they aren't police. NIPs are signed off by the police, but generated by civilian run safety camera partnership teams.
So you have that wrong. If that was the case, how could an NIP be issued if you were clocked by a camera? Thats not a police officer is it? But yes, you are right that safety camera teams don't have powers to stop you, only the police can do that.
I don't think you fully understand what I'm saying? And I don't really need to check the facts online after doing it for 32 years, but thanks anyway.
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Post by MartinT on Jan 6, 2017 17:21:53 GMT
It's allocation of budget, Tim. I get fed up of hearing government announcements on how they're going to crack down further on motorists. Why? Because they're easy targets. By all means, stop idiots holding their mobile phones while driving. It's this constant focus on speeding (prompted by groups like Transport 2000) that make me wonder at why there isn't less lazy thinking going on.
By the way, I rarely deliberately speed. Also, hackneyed it may be, but I've seen coppers with hairdryers jumping out from behind bushes.
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Post by Tim on Jan 6, 2017 17:36:20 GMT
I agree totally, but is that a policing issue or a Government one? We are fortunate to have a police service that police's by consent and is very accountable.
The very small number of traffic officers who do enforce speed limits are these days target directed, either as a result of complaints from residents, or due to accident statistics. They aren't doing it 'because they have nothing better to do'.
If they do nothing, residents complain and if they do, speeding motorists complain. But that's their job, to enforce traffic law. Take that away and you have very dangerous roads, what do you want?
If you knew how many of them there were, you would be shocked and if you weren't speeding they wouldn't jump out of the bush! But that's a bit nonsense these days, no right minded copper is going to put themselves at risk doing such a thing. You just didn't see them because you were either driving too fast or no concentrating. But if you don't speed you don't get caught.
Sorry, but it gets my goat when people bleat on about such crap, without understanding what they are actually talking about and don't have the good grace to pay up, shut up and slow down. If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.
My final words.
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Post by daytona600 on Jan 6, 2017 21:31:01 GMT
Could be worse if they used these
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Post by MartinT on Jan 7, 2017 12:31:53 GMT
Sorry, but it gets my goat when people bleat on about such crap, without understanding what they are actually talking about and don't have the good grace to pay up, shut up and slow down. If you can't do the time, don't do the crime. Doesn't 35 years of driving experience, membership of the ABD and observation of what goes on around me count for anything? Not to mention paying taxes every year without fail, contributing to the government and police forces? At the very least, I have a right to an opinion. I did pay up, but good grace would be asking a bit much so it wasn't offered.
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Post by speedysteve on Jan 8, 2017 21:38:59 GMT
Dangerous and obnoxious drivers should have their cars crushed and be forced to drive, er ney ride these www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-37103159
BMW is more realistic at 2030.
You can feel the entire programme R&D cringe when the sales guys bang on about 2021. Of course they know that legislation will be slower than a slow thing... |
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