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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2016 10:40:24 GMT
Noddy it's not official dogma but the UK regs. It may be safe under certain circumstances but I'm afraid I read it as a recommendation to a query about what mains cable to use rather than a statement of 'what I use'. Someone claiming to be highly qualified should know better and act responsibly on forums.
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Post by pre65 on Apr 16, 2016 11:14:44 GMT
Dogma is "a principle or set of principles laid down by an authority as incontrovertibly true" , so I think it was an apt word to use.  |
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Post by AlanS on Apr 16, 2016 11:26:28 GMT
Noddy it's not official dogma but the UK regs. It may be safe under certain circumstances but I'm afraid I read it as a recommendation to a query about what mains cable to use rather than a statement of 'what I use'. Someone claiming to be highly qualified should know better and act responsibly on forums. A brief return from my usual logged out state these days. Just to say I fully empathise with you point of view and the moderated away ideas of your previous post. Hopefully one can think the same even if once cannot say so on this forum. Do not be discouraged back to reading only. I don't want to know another what do you |
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Post by MartinT on Apr 16, 2016 11:45:02 GMT
What moderated away ideas, Alan? Nothing was removed from that post.
You can say what you like, but our ethos does discourage personal attacks. Surely it's easy to get your point across by arguing those points, not attacking the man?
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Post by Chris on Apr 16, 2016 18:30:14 GMT
Got a reply from MCRU today as well regarding his dodgy pricing. I'm not going into it but I won't ever buy anything from there.
Shame really.
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Post by pre65 on Apr 16, 2016 19:42:45 GMT
What would one consider to be "dodgy" pricing ?
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Post by Chris on Apr 16, 2016 20:13:10 GMT
Silver plug priced at £9.95 + £1.95 p&p. Then another listing - same plug £12.95 with free(!) p&p.
It's just deceptive and I can't stand that.
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Post by Greg on Apr 16, 2016 22:50:17 GMT
Many eBay sellers multiply advertise their products and sometimes they are listed with different prices. It is for the buyer to do the research and locate the best price. No different from comparing prices in a supermarket where a product on offer can be bought cheaper if for example you buy two smaller quantities which gives better value than the larger one on offer. As said, it's for the buyer to be switched on to find the best price.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2016 23:31:15 GMT
Many eBay sellers multiply advertise their products and sometimes they are listed with different prices. It is for the buyer to do the research and locate the best price. No different from comparing prices in a supermarket where a product on offer can be bought cheaper if for example you buy two smaller quantities which gives better value than the larger one on offer. As said, it's for the buyer to be switched on to find the best price. Really poor (and inaccurate) analogy though isn't it? As a rule a larger packaging of the same product will be cheaper pro-rata than a smaller one. A better example would be if the supermarket had exactly the same product in the same packaging shelved in different aisles and priced differently. Unless this was simply an exceptional oversight, I would avoid the shop as they were clearly either incompetent or dishonest. For the same reason I avoid eBay sellers who can't make their mind up what to charge for what they're offering - if they fail on this simple point the rest of their service is likely to be just as crap. |
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Post by ChrisB on Apr 16, 2016 23:53:51 GMT
The thing is Greg, that Chris did find the best price. But he also spotted the other one.
When faced with two identical products at different prices from a single vendor, one has to make a mental assessment of whether the vendor has been clumsy or is chancing it for a premium price. Some would call the latter dishonest. At best, it is disingenuous.
Chris had the sense to ask questions about whether it was the former or the latter in this case and the reply made him want to walk away from even the cheapest price.
Customers should be regarded with respect, not as a resource to mine.
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Post by Chris on Apr 17, 2016 3:55:27 GMT
I disagree Greg. It's for the seller not to lie and deceive. Obviously that doesn't happen in the real world even though there are rules against it. I agree with ChrisB here - treating customers like that is shoddy.
As to the " take it or leave it" answer I got,well I will certainly leave it.
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Post by Tim on Apr 17, 2016 5:52:15 GMT
Customers should be regarded with respect, not as a resource to mine. Exactly and precisely why I would never support a vendor with questionable pricing. Probably harsh, but some of the product pricing I have witnessed over the years of my visiting hifi forums, have been nothing short of scandalous exploitation. |
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Post by Greg on Apr 17, 2016 17:54:09 GMT
OK, points taken and acknowledged. All your observations are good and maybe I was taking the view that there are many out there who try this type of thing and as ever, it is for the buyer to beware, and of course if they want the product, to find the best price. The morality issue is another matter and I appreciate that Chris and others here hold that to be important. These days, I've generally become a bit jaundiced about morality right across our society be it eBay sellers, politicians, celebrities or almost anyone known as Joe Public. Of course, TAS members are not Joe Public  |
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Post by MikeMusic on Apr 18, 2016 14:29:44 GMT
Silver plug priced at £9.95 + £1.95 p&p. Then another listing - same plug £12.95 with free(!) p&p. It's just deceptive and I can't stand that. My guess. That's a mistake |
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Post by pre65 on Apr 18, 2016 15:00:22 GMT
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Post by Chris on Apr 18, 2016 15:11:37 GMT
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Post by Chris on Apr 18, 2016 15:14:03 GMT
And no Mike it's not a mistake. As far as MCRU are concerned they are free to sell what they want,for what they want,where they want.
He's following this thread as well.
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Post by pre65 on Apr 18, 2016 15:21:24 GMT
Looks like the Ebay prices have been "harmonised". 
£10.95 + £1.95 = £12.90
£12.95 + free post = £12.95
near enough ?
Same item on web site is £10.80 + £2.50 = £13.30, but may be on a faster posting schedule ?
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Post by Slinger on Apr 18, 2016 15:44:28 GMT
Looking at those two listings I see that the "Buy it Now" price was revised up yesterday afternoon on the lower priced item. It's now £10.95+£1.95 p+p so there's only a £0.05 differential (£12.90 v £12.95)
There are 140 sales recorded against the lower priced item and 116 sales at the higher price.
The same plug purchased via the MCRU website shows as £10.80 + £2.50 p+p (£13.30) in your basket, despite the UK, Europe & Worldwide Delivery section of the website stating...
So it seems that there are actually 3 different prices for that plug, (or four if you count the confusion over the website shipping costs) with the website option currently the most expensive, and the plug is apparently £1.20 off there at the moment.
Alternatively the MCRU eBay shop does offer a pack of 3 plugs costing £29.95 + £2.50 delivery, so approx £10.82 per plug if bought that way, which is an offer that is not repeated on the MCRU website as far as I can see.
Now, that's not confusing in the least, is it Chris?
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Post by Chris on Apr 18, 2016 17:59:27 GMT
Bloody nonsense that's what it is. Just a chancer,plain and simple.
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