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Post by MartinT on Jul 1, 2014 6:57:49 GMT
Pinkie - do you actually use bi-wiring or single wiring in your system? I'm not sure I picked that up. You seemed to approve of my post recommending single wiring.
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Post by pinkie on Jul 1, 2014 7:24:59 GMT
No I use single wiring only, and the original jumpers on the Ventricals (pretty obviously single wiring on the Lowthers). If I lost the jumpers I would bridge with the same speaker cable I use for the main run.
I have played with bi-amping and bi-wiring (and as noted before active crossovers at PT - so others played, I joined in). The 4 speaker posts on the back of the Ventricals were a sop to fashion rather than a statement of belief. Everybody at PT used them straight.
But as I noted before, any tinkering can bring either minor real or apparant perceived changes. I like to try to make sure I don't get lost in the wilderness of mirrors.
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Post by danielquinn on Jul 1, 2014 8:16:04 GMT
There is of course another way , which I have appropriated . As I have not seen anyone else replicate it , lets call it the NVA way . That is a single set of speaker cables which split in to two at the speaker end .
It is available direct from NVA , though as all my system is hard wired I did it myself .
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Post by MartinT on Jul 1, 2014 9:14:22 GMT
That is a single set of speaker cables which split in to two at the speaker end . You could say there is a sliding scale of where the 'Y' joint is, from the amp end (which is effectively bi-wire) through an obvious 'Y' joint somewhere along the length, all the way to connecting at the bass speaker terminals (which is single-wire with jumpers). If doing the latter, always single-wire to the bass terminals and then jumper to the mid/treble.
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Post by danielquinn on Jul 1, 2014 9:24:25 GMT
True , but with traditional bi wire you have twice the expense , twice the cable and twice the dielectric and this can effect electrical properties and thus sound .
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2014 21:10:35 GMT
Well, I was hoping to try a Morgan Audio Deva 300S, but that has fallen through as the bloke didn't receive my e-mail. So, I was thinking of the Audionote M2 line preamp on the Wam. Is it worth the asking price? The Croft 25R is a little out of reach at the moment.
I'm still tempted by an NVA product, such as the AP50. There is one for sale locally at €450, but I don't know what cable the bloke has been using.
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Post by Chris on Jul 6, 2014 19:08:45 GMT
One amplifier.
Tried an 8P and it didn't make the price worth of difference. Single box amplification for me.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2014 16:30:23 GMT
The current plan is to run the 8R as a pre-amp, and use a 10P for amplification duties. Just one question though, how good are the latest generation of NAD amps? I was thinking of something like a C375BEE or C355BEE. I have never heard a NAD, and the local dealers don't sell NAD, so it would be a complete gamble.
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Post by Chris on Jul 7, 2014 19:02:55 GMT
I've got an old NAD amp kicking about you are welcome to borrow for the price of postage. Very good it is too. Can't remember the model no.
Let me know if you are interested.
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Post by pinkie on Jul 7, 2014 19:09:57 GMT
I asked the same question of Mr Jones who had a NAD in circuit when we were testing at his house. THX who he designs for also had a NAD collaboration. This is the answer I got "I hadn't got round to installing the 405 after updating it - if we had have had time for more listening then I would have swapped it back in. The NAD was there just to have something in place - I bought it as an example of a commercial rail-switching amplifier." Wait for your bloody Arcam, get 100w power into those inefficient speakers and see what you think then. How many amplifiers do you want? You'll end up in the dog-house. You have no idea the stick I'm getting for having 3 pairs of speakers!!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2014 19:19:12 GMT
You have no idea the stick I'm getting for having 3 pairs of speakers!! Is that all??? Seven and one pair in bits at the mo. Why should that cause some stick? Variety is the spice of life
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Post by pinkie on Jul 7, 2014 19:24:07 GMT
Sorry, that was 3 pairs in the living room. I have some Mission 70's and JBL's as near field monitors and kitchen system speakers respectively. They are quite big speakers too...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2014 20:00:24 GMT
I only want one amp, but one that works well. If I can get an integrated that sounds good in my system, I will be happy.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2014 5:34:10 GMT
Hopefully, the 10P will have some competition. I hope to have the Graham Slee Proprius mono blocks fitted when you get here Pinkie. They are only 25 watts each, but supposedly work quite well.
If the Proprius win, I'll be looking for a balanced output pre-amp, and will probably make up some balanced cables from the MC5000 cable. This will allow me to get some really good speaker cable as I will only need a couple of metres of it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2014 15:27:06 GMT
We'll, that deal has spectacularly fallen through. No contact from the vendor, and the advert has disappeared from the Wam.
Back to square one.
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Post by julesd68 on Jul 16, 2014 22:14:41 GMT
I'm still tempted by an NVA product, such as the AP50. There is one for sale locally at €450, but I don't know what cable the bloke has been using. The AP50 is a very good amp indeed. It has the slam and dynamics you would expect from a solid-state amp but is also refined at the same time. I had one for some time before deciding to have a play with tube amps ...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2014 10:56:42 GMT
Rightly, or wrongly, Wonky placed an order for a pair of Proprius Amps yesterday. I was close to placing an order for the "TVR" of amplifiers but the recent debacle has put me off.
I had a in depth conversation with the designer, who assures me that they will be more than up to the job, if not I will use the updated distance selling regs to send them back. I can't see that happening though!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 6:22:00 GMT
This how a user described them on a couple of other forums. He described them as a back to basics amp with no extra gadgets that just felt right. I thought that they had another trait in common as well. The "plastic" body.
I have no experience or comments about reliability, as the Tamora I have had for 6 months now has been faultless.
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Post by danielquinn on Jul 21, 2014 7:00:21 GMT
I understand Rd would have refused your order.
And chaps the last two posts ,deary me. Give it a rest eh I thought this wasn't AoS.
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Post by MartinT on Jul 21, 2014 7:30:20 GMT
I understand Rd would have refused your order. And chaps the last two posts ,deary me. Give it a rest eh I thought this wasn't AoS. Hang on a minute - are we talking about an NVA amp? I had no idea, my joke was about TVR cars. Apologies.
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