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Post by John on Nov 3, 2015 18:36:51 GMT
They seem to have a effect on EMI but no idea how and can certainly understand why people would be skeptical
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Post by brian2957 on Nov 3, 2015 19:53:27 GMT
Interesting , wonder what's in them  |
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Post by brian2957 on Nov 3, 2015 19:55:56 GMT
To keep it simple for non techies like me Electrickery type things Absorbing unwanted outputs that interfere with signal if I get it right... John ? No chance of gettiing loadsa foo outa you then Mike  |
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Post by MartinT on Nov 3, 2015 20:24:46 GMT
For me, the clue is that Black Ravioli seems to do its thing even at low volumes, where isolation cannot be their only function.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2015 20:59:40 GMT
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Post by steveeb on Nov 3, 2015 22:31:19 GMT
Careful there - you'll turn Jerry off again with talk of Isotropic crystalline molecular structure...  Actually I agree with you on the MF thing Jerry. That's why I intended just one affordable design that works as a standalone device, but that could also be built on for a performance upgrade. |
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Post by jandl100 on Nov 4, 2015 7:14:49 GMT
Careful there - you'll turn Jerry off again with talk of Isotropic crystalline molecular structure... Damn right. Crystals, eh!  Any mention of quantum? Re: Black Ravioli - I've only heard them once, about 3-4 years ago at a dealer dem day - under Naim speakers (which, let's face it, can use all the help they can get  ) - they just sucked the dynamic life out of the music. But then, squidgy supports usually (always?) do that for me. I've not heard them under electronics which may well be a different kettle of swimming things. But as to how they could affect non-vibrational effects like EMI .... where's a whistle emoticon when you need it? As John says, I'm skeptical to say the least. |
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Post by brian2957 on Nov 4, 2015 7:57:17 GMT
How much are they Kevin ? If they're expensive then I'm not really interested in them . I want something that is cheap and just works , like the Rockin'Rollers X1s and X2s . |
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Post by John on Nov 4, 2015 9:40:51 GMT
Careful there - you'll turn Jerry off again with talk of Isotropic crystalline molecular structure... Damn right. Crystals, eh! Any mention of quantum? Re: Black Ravioli - I've only heard them once, about 3-4 years ago at a dealer dem day - under Naim speakers (which, let's face it, can use all the help they can get ) - they just sucked the dynamic life out of the music. But then, squidgy supports usually (always?) do that for me. I've not heard them under electronics which may well be a different kettle of swimming things. But as to how they could affect non-vibrational effects like EMI .... where's a whistle emoticon when you need it? As John says, I'm skeptical to say the least. First of all just goes to show just because something works in one system does not mean it works in another When using the BR I found placement critical just using them as a typical 4 feet at each corner it robbed dynamics for me. Putting 3 at the back and one at the front and different story I no idea why just does not make a lot of sense but placement seems critical
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Post by MikeMusic on Nov 4, 2015 9:51:23 GMT
Tony explained the effect to me once or twice.
Be good if he dropped in to give the sensible version.
Our kit gives off rubbish we don't want going any further, certainly not out of the speakers.
When Black Ravioli is placed under some of the parts of our kit that produce the most rubbish they absorb it.
Thinking of only the improvement to sound, not what is going on....
I'd like to know how X2 Rollers compare to Black Ravioli
There is a big price difference and for many the Rollers will win the day due to the VFM
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2015 10:12:02 GMT
How much are they Kevin ? If they're expensive then I'm not really interested in them . I want something that is cheap and just works , like the Rockin'Rollers X1s and X2s . €31 + postage for the cubes They also do cones/support combos and discs for under feet. I noticed this when I bought my 4mm graphite cartridge spacer. The Rockin' Rollers seem to be working well under my FH3s, but I am not sure I have the space for the X2 in my rack. Black Ravioli seems quite expensive, so I was just looking at other options. I want something that looks aesthetically pleasing, as well as effective under my equipment, and I am not sure I will find what I am looking for. Especially as I restrict myself to the lower end of the price range. A low profile X2 would probably be ok, but I would want it to be discreet. Some of my equipment has really small feet, and is not very big. |
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Post by MartinT on Nov 4, 2015 12:19:32 GMT
But then, squidgy supports usually (always?) do that for me. The new Black Raviolis are not squidgy, they're quite solid blocks. |
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Post by MikeMusic on Nov 4, 2015 13:15:28 GMT
Never knowingly out teched  |
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Post by brian2957 on Nov 4, 2015 14:11:06 GMT
Never knowingly out teched Hah ! I'm the same Mike |
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Post by brian2957 on Nov 4, 2015 14:12:15 GMT
How much are they Kevin ? If they're expensive then I'm not really interested in them . I want something that is cheap and just works , like the Rockin'Rollers X1s and X2s . €31 + postage for the cubes They also do cones/support combos and discs for under feet. I noticed this when I bought my 4mm graphite cartridge spacer. The Rockin' Rollers seem to be working well under my FH3s, but I am not sure I have the space for the X2 in my rack. Black Ravioli seems quite expensive, so I was just looking at other options. I want something that looks aesthetically pleasing, as well as effective under my equipment, and I am not sure I will find what I am looking for. Especially as I restrict myself to the lower end of the price range. A low profile X2 would probably be ok, but I would want it to be discreet. Some of my equipment has really small feet, and is not very big. Well I'll be stopping at the Rockin'Rollers X1 and X2 because they're excellent for the price . If height is a concern you can always stop at the X1s , they're an excellent upgrade on their own . |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2015 17:49:30 GMT
True, but if the X2 is much better....
Any chance of a "low profile" version Steve?
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Post by ynwan on Nov 4, 2015 17:58:58 GMT
Tony explained the effect to me once or twice. Be good if he dropped in to give the sensible version. Our kit gives off rubbish we don't want going any further, certainly not out of the speakers. When Black Ravioli is placed under some of the parts of our kit that produce the most rubbish they absorb it. Thinking of only the improvement to sound, not what is going on.... I'd like to know how X2 Rollers compare to Black Ravioli There is a big price difference and for many the Rollers will win the day due to the VFM I was once given chapter and verse on how Black Ravioli absorbs RFI from the area surrounding it (this was by a rep at a show). Frankly this is laughable rubbish; it may (but even this isn't overly likely) attenuate RFI in line of sight but it doesn't act as some sort of temporal sponge sucking RFI out of the ether (unless it's a material that exists outside our current understanding of physics that is). |
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Post by MikeMusic on Nov 4, 2015 18:04:13 GMT
It's Quantum init mate |
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Post by jandl100 on Nov 4, 2015 18:22:11 GMT
But then, squidgy supports usually (always?) do that for me. The new Black Raviolis are not squidgy, they're quite solid blocks. Aha! I stand corrected. |
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Post by ChrisB on Nov 4, 2015 18:32:24 GMT
Never mind Black Ravioli, has anyone tried using Golden Brown Pierogi?  |
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) - they just sucked the dynamic life out of the music. But then, squidgy supports usually (always?) do that for me.
