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Post by ChrisB on Apr 3, 2015 22:28:43 GMT
.....so what did you discover when you tried it?
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Post by pre65 on Apr 4, 2015 8:49:49 GMT
Not had time yet.
I only turn the computer off when I go out, or go to bed.
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Post by MartinT on Apr 4, 2015 8:59:11 GMT
Interesting suggestion, but since we're mostly flooded with neighborhood wi-fi signals, I can't see what it would prove and you can't turn off mobile 3G/4G broadcasts. Still, worth switching off the router just to hear for any improvement there may be.
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Post by MikeMusic on Apr 4, 2015 10:05:31 GMT
Might turn the router off tomorrow and have a listen
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2015 16:57:54 GMT
Router, mobile phone, LED and CFL lamps, digital cordless phones.....etc
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2015 13:40:47 GMT
I'm still experimenting with the jug of water. Today I shot a YouTube video with the same track I covered in a previous video. This time the water was in the room. It sounded great today, so here is the new video alongside the old one for comparison. I meant to do this a few days ago, so apologies for taking my time about it.
And the old video without the water:
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Post by pre65 on Apr 6, 2015 13:48:28 GMT
If I remember correctly, according to P Belt and/or Jimmy Hughes having other (not in use) speakers in the same room was a no-no.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2015 14:06:19 GMT
Even if I fill them with water? I do remember Linn being advocates of removing other speakers too. I can hear differences between the videos on playback. The one with the water seems to have more bass?
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Post by pre65 on Apr 6, 2015 14:12:59 GMT
Even if I fill them with water? I can hear differences between the videos on playback. The one with the water seems to have more bass? It is a tad louder.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2015 14:38:43 GMT
If I remember correctly, according to P Belt and/or Jimmy Hughes having other (not in use) speakers in the same room was a no-no. That is quite an old idea, heard I think for the first time by either Ivor Tieffenbrun, or Riccardo Franasovici or some such in the ancient past. I think the issue is that a speaker which is not connected is a structure which can vibrate in sympathy to the sound from the speakers in use. There is certainly an argument for putting a shorting link on the back to damp the vibration (like putting an AVO 8 into non use mode by putting both pointers vertical - it puts a short across the meter movement to stop the needle banging around when carrying it). I moved a lot of decorative crystal glassware out of the room for that reason. A sharp handclap give this long cacophony of pings and rings from the ornaments. In fact back in Wharfedale days, I was doing a show set up, and wondered why I got no sound, except something that sounded like a quiet tinny old radio. Turned out we had shorting links across the speaker terminals and the amp was actually playing the speaker leads (and thereby hangs another tale...). The point is that they had been in the Wharfedale demo room back in Bradford, and even at stuffy old early 90's Wharfedale we used to short any speakers that were also in there when auditioning or blind comparing.
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Post by Mr Whippy on Apr 7, 2015 0:23:03 GMT
Router, mobile phone, LED and CFL lamps, digital cordless phones.....etc Hope you have no-one on a life-support system…
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2015 7:12:04 GMT
Beep, beep...
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Post by MartinT on Apr 7, 2015 7:54:02 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2015 17:08:51 GMT
Whilst I do still find the water does something to my perception, the video above was a belated April fool which apparently nobody got The clue was near the end though so maybe nobody watched that far. The reason for more bass probably had more to do with the newly installed subwoofer I revelaled rather than the water.
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Post by MartinT on Apr 7, 2015 17:16:06 GMT
Ah! I didn't like the music so didn't hang around!
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Post by John on Apr 7, 2015 18:07:45 GMT
I have to admit to not listening but good April fools
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Post by Guest on Apr 8, 2015 15:34:26 GMT
Might turn the router off tomorrow and have a listen When you turn your router off, it registers with your provider as a fault/reset. It should never be turned off and cannot do daily checks to keep it bang up to date if you do. Re; additional speakers in the room, they resonate as auxilliary bass radiators, clouding the sound ever so slightly. If you TV is in the same room as your audio gear, that has to be removed too!!!!
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Post by MikeMusic on Apr 8, 2015 15:53:26 GMT
I will leave the router on then !
There's all sorts + the TV, spare set of Isobariks
Could take a few out I guess......
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Post by MartinT on Apr 8, 2015 19:21:35 GMT
When you turn your router off, it registers with your provider as a fault/reset. It should never be turned off and cannot do daily checks to keep it bang up to date if you do. That's nonsense, I'm afraid. Most providers couldn't care less if you switch your router off, they will still keep billing you until you stop the service. These are not managed leased lines we're talking about. Secondly, very few routers will perform automatic updates, the vast majority will require you to perform a firmware update manually. If the router is off why should it matter if it isn't up to date? Finally, they can occasionally lock up and require restarting. It's common to power cycle them to ensure a complete reset. They will re-train according to the line speed on power up.
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Post by Guest on Apr 9, 2015 17:50:40 GMT
When you turn your router off, it registers with your provider as a fault/reset. It should never be turned off and cannot do daily checks to keep it bang up to date if you do. That's nonsense, I'm afraid. Most providers couldn't care less if you switch your router off, they will still keep billing you until you stop the service. These are not managed leased lines we're talking about. Secondly, very few routers will perform automatic updates, the vast majority will require you to perform a firmware update manually. If the router is off why should it matter if it isn't up to date? Finally, they can occasionally lock up and require restarting. It's common to power cycle them to ensure a complete reset. They will re-train according to the line speed on power up. The information was given me by the BT engineer, the help desk at BT and the Outreach engineer. All three of them advised me most strongly to 'never' turn the router off. It registers at BT as a fault. Then as a reset. The router should be up to date for security reasons, that is why windows updates so often. To stop the latest hackers from breaching your firewall. There is a firewall on the router (hub) as well, which one has to manually provide openings onto in order to allow certain programmes access to your PC. So qualified engineers tell me that is. It may be that you use Apple sir, in which case the whole set up is different. Only microsoft and microsoft users have problems due to their association with Bill Gates. So I have read many times that is. Let us just agree to differ on this one shall we? Peace.
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