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Post by ChrisB on Feb 17, 2015 13:41:04 GMT
Right. Let's say you find yourself to be the owner of a device (not necessarily a preamp) which contains a photoresistor containing cadmium. You feel that you owe it to yourself and your fellow man to dispose of it responsibly. What do you do?
You can phone up the waste management section of your local county council and ask, for a start. That's what I did this morning. Unless you live in a unitary council area, the usual arrangement is that the district or borough council do the collecting of the waste and the county council manage it thereafter. In Lancashire, electrical goods are taken to be broken down into their constituent components by an electrical goods recycler, who will then dispose of each component appropriately. This ensures that things like cadmium and mercury are kept out of landfill as far as is possible.
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Post by jammy on Feb 17, 2015 13:41:39 GMT
Dan, Chris, and let's not forget Doc who's words of wisdom (as above) are in laymans terms the FACT and all we need to know. Amen. Now lets move on and expose Naim......
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Post by danielquinn on Feb 17, 2015 13:49:17 GMT
Problem is law is not fact , it is interpretation .
as the precis of your mystery emailer highlights , facts are in short supply just take the ridiculous definition of professional .
Hence the reason I employed basics facts that are beyond dispute . Much of the terms in the rhos regulations are open to argument , for instance I could for suitable renumeration construct a very good submission that what some LDR suppliers are supplying are in fact electronic equipment and not components and are thus illegal.
building your own power supply does not make the supplied ldr piece of equipment a component .
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Post by ChrisB on Feb 17, 2015 14:13:23 GMT
Problem is law is not fact , it is interpretation . Yeah, tell me more - I work in a field that has to cope with a situation where the High Court has held that "a 'tree' is anything which, ordinarily one would call a tree." Nice going m'lud!
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Post by ChrisB on Feb 17, 2015 20:52:40 GMT
Exactly what RD said . ;) Dan, Chris, and let's not forget Doc who's words of wisdom (as above) are in laymans terms the FACT and all we need to know. He may well have said it. I'm sure others have also said it in other places too. Trouble is, no-one said it here.
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Post by guy on Feb 17, 2015 21:29:43 GMT
I don't think it's worth arguing with the "Dunnites" on here.
Their position and views are noted.
Time to move on. Seems that you are correct, there is little point arguing with the legal position. Having noted this, wouldn't it be advisable to lock the "Making a reference LDR pre amp" thread and as you so succinctly put it "move on"
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Post by Paul Barker on Feb 17, 2015 23:41:39 GMT
Problem is law is not fact , it is interpretation . ...... for instance I could for suitable renumeration construct a very good submission that what some LDR suppliers are supplying are in fact electronic equipment and not components and are thus illegal.... Interesting law isn't it? on my gas fitters forum a guys insurance company told him he wasn't insured because he had modified it. (He put a roof rack on it). Anyway his brief said tell them to do one it,s an accessory not a modification. He is at present awaiting the result in court. THE LAW IS AN ASS didn't someone say?
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Post by Greg on Feb 18, 2015 2:11:20 GMT
Problem is law is not fact , it is interpretation . Yeah, tell me more - I work in a field that has to cope with a situation where the High Court has held that "a 'tree' is anything which, ordinarily one would call a tree." Nice going m'lud! That is a typical and very reasonable take in law. What the statement means is a tree is anything a reasonable person would generally regard as being a tree. The use of 'reasonable person' is a commonly used reference and rightly remains applicable to many applications of law, even new case law.
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Post by pinkie on Feb 18, 2015 6:37:28 GMT
Showing my age. It used to be "the man on the Clapham omnibus". Although I doubt he's ever seen a tree these days. I think the advice should be the same dunns forum gave me about balanced power supplies. If you have an issue with the legality and safety report it to the authorities.
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Post by ChrisB on Feb 18, 2015 7:17:22 GMT
Yeah, tell me more - I work in a field that has to cope with a situation where the High Court has held that "a 'tree' is anything which, ordinarily one would call a tree." Nice going m'lud! That is a typical and very reasonable take in law. What the statement means is a tree is anything a reasonable person would generally regard as being a tree. The use of 'reasonable person' is a commonly used reference and rightly remains applicable to many applications of law, even new case law. That's all very well in the normal run of things but there are occasions when something that is a tree to biological science is not considered by the layman to be one. Would you consider a tree stump to be a tree, for example? In most cases, people (and the law) consider that it ceases to be a tree when you cut it down. This is an important distinction if you want to protect trees from development by people who don't give a stuff for the environment.
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Post by MartinT on Feb 18, 2015 7:26:14 GMT
Having noted this, wouldn't it be advisable to lock the "Making a reference LDR pre amp" thread It's a fair comment and we will keep a careful eye on it. However, having established a legal grounding on the sale and use of LDRs, I believe there's nothing stopping a DIYer from building a component using LDRs for his or her own use only.
I note that Farnell sell 16 different LDRs with no warning about them. However, tick the RoHS compliant filter and there are no results, as expected.
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Post by ChrisB on Feb 18, 2015 20:14:56 GMT
I've removed most of today's activity on this thread because it served no purpose other than to cause inflammatory exchanges and to cover ground that has already been covered. The thread will remain closed for the time being.
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Post by ChrisB on Feb 18, 2015 20:18:02 GMT
There is a suitable warning in our notices section and also in the LDR Preamp thread: Please see our warning about the use of components containing cadmium here
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