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Post by Stratmangler on Oct 8, 2016 10:15:13 GMT
LMS is server-based, Volumio runs on the Pi. Quite different principles of operation. You should be able to run LMS installed within one of the supported Linux distros, and something like Squeezelite on the same RasPi. Hang a self powered HDD off the Pi and you have a self contained setup.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2016 12:00:48 GMT
O dear now i am confused. I think it best i drop the Raspberry idea & just stick with casual listerning via Laptop like i did before the hifi mob cottoned onto lossless as a trend
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Post by MartinT on Oct 8, 2016 14:28:28 GMT
LMS is server-based, Volumio runs on the Pi. Quite different principles of operation. You should be able to run LMS installed within one of the supported Linux distros, and something like Squeezelite on the same RasPi. Hang a self powered HDD off the Pi and you have a self contained setup. I could, but my needs are different. I use mine for: 1) Spotify in hi-bitrate mode 2) Radio Paradise in Naim hi-res mode 3) File-based playing (but very little) So Volumio 2 makes the perfect solution without the complexity, and I don't really need local storage.
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Post by Stratmangler on Oct 8, 2016 16:07:18 GMT
I could, but my needs are different. I use mine for: 1) Spotify in hi-bitrate mode 2) Radio Paradise in Naim hi-res mode 3) File-based playing (but very little) So Volumio 2 makes the perfect solution without the complexity, and I don't really need local storage. In what way are your needs different? Been there, seen it, and done it using LMS. LMS does Spotify in hi-bitrate mode, Radio Paradise using the Naim hi-res stream, and obviously file based audio.
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Post by MartinT on Oct 8, 2016 17:30:41 GMT
Only in that I don't need or want server software where none is required. The RPi is stand-alone, which works very well.
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Post by Stratmangler on Oct 9, 2016 9:36:17 GMT
I've no problem with the standalone bit Martin, it's just that your earlier post mentioned the other bits as though LMS doesn't do them, and I thought it needed clarification.
Now as I suggested earlier, it should be possible to run one of the Linux distros on the Pi, install LMS on it, install something like Squeezelight on it, hook a drive up to the Pi, and run the entire lot as a headless, standalone unit.
LMS could be accessed via a web browser on (for example) 192.168.0.x:9000, or a smartphone or tablet app.
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Post by MartinT on Oct 9, 2016 11:07:09 GMT
it's just that your earlier post mentioned the other bits as though LMS doesn't do them Ah no, sorry, I didn't mean to imply that.
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Post by MartinT on Jan 17, 2017 8:56:49 GMT
I did battle with the RPi2 last night, getting it ready for running from wi-fi in the new music room. I put the latest build of Volumio 2 on it and then had a lot of problems firing up the wi-fi USB module while still connected to the Home Hub 5 via cable. I feel that Volumio is still lacking in this area, the whole wi-fi 'connect' experience just doesn't seem to work very smoothly.
Got it working in the end with Spotify streaming nicely into headphones. Now have to move it over there (different SSID) and still have the issue of insufficient wi-fi signal from my extender lash-up. More problems yet to solve.
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Post by Clive on Jan 17, 2017 10:59:54 GMT
Should you be able to connect with 2 networks at the same time or had you disabled the Ethernet connection?
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Post by MartinT on Jan 17, 2017 11:34:33 GMT
Once I move it to the music room I won't have ethernet cable, so have to get it all ready for wi-fi first so that I can manage it when I'm in there.
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Post by Greg on Jan 17, 2017 19:51:57 GMT
Well, I've not tried Volumio and as you know use Roon connected to my fast Virgin broadband. There were four of us who set up our RPi streamers at the same time, all with different ISP's. None of us could get them to work properly on wi-fI and even when connected through home plugs, we all constantly suffered from drop outs. We have all gone over to fully wired connections and none of us have had a problem with this since.
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Post by ChrisB on Jan 17, 2017 20:10:21 GMT
2 Pis here: one wired, one wireless. I've used Rune (as opposed to Roon), Volumio and Moode with success on all of them.
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Post by Stratmangler on Jan 17, 2017 20:11:20 GMT
Well, I've not tried Volumio and as you know use Roon connected to my fast Virgin broadband. There were four of us who set up our RPi streamers at the same time, all with different ISP's. None of us could get them to work properly on wi-fI and even when connected through home plugs, we all constantly suffered from drop outs. We have all gone over to fully wired connections and none of us have had a problem with this since. Oy! That's my stick you're beating Martin with. I've probably hit you with it too
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Post by MartinT on Jan 17, 2017 20:18:47 GMT
No choice with going wi-fi, I'm very far from being able to throw Ethernet over to the annex.
I've now got the Pi2 going on wi-fi, not without some gnashing of teeth. It runs via the HiFiBerry Digi+, a Beresford optical cable and into the Caiman SEG.
I hear about 15s of music until the buffer empties, then if I'm lucky another 15s ad infinitum. Clearly there is not enough wi-fi bandwidth to sustain the Spotify hi-res stream.
I'll have another think.
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Post by Stratmangler on Jan 17, 2017 20:32:29 GMT
Is the annex separate from the main house? You might be able to string up a drop wire as a catenary and tie wrap an ethernet cable (proper external grade Cat5e of course) or two to it, or you could even use a banjo (spade) and cut a slit trench across the garden and drop cable into it. The second method would be better if you pulled the cable through Copex.
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Post by MartinT on Jan 17, 2017 21:23:31 GMT
All possibilities, Chris. Right now, there are other priorities that need my attention so it'll have to wait for a while. Another possibility is beamed wireless using mini dishes.
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Post by Stratmangler on Jan 17, 2017 21:40:35 GMT
The beamed wireless thing will work. It's a bit overkill though, and it will require a hard reset at each end at the most inconvenient moment when it locks up. You will have close proximity on your side.
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Post by Clive on Jan 18, 2017 6:40:35 GMT
Extending ethernet from the main house to annex may not be as simple as a wire in a trench. Bear in mind there will likely be a potential difference between the two buildings. This could result in smoking electronics.
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Post by Clive on Jan 18, 2017 6:41:56 GMT
Re wifi...I suspect the RPi3 is better with its on-board wifi. I've had no issues with it at all.
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Post by MartinT on Jan 18, 2017 7:03:47 GMT
I now have wi-fi in the music room, courtesy of a TP-Link TL-WA850RE wi-fi extender by the bedroom window linking to a BT 1200 extender in the Annex 1st floor. Having tried several combinations (I have a whole collection of wi-fi extenders now), this is the best link allowing me to browse on the tablet. It's not good enough for a Spotify stream, though. The signal strength is only 26% or so.
A new RPi won't help as the local wi-fi signal is fine, it's the link that is poor.
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