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Post by The Brookmeister on Jan 11, 2016 19:45:29 GMT
Short thread as other forums don't allow me to get enthusiastic about anything that I sell!
No links to websites just a note that Arthurs Boing feet are very good indeed I tried them today.
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Post by John on Jan 11, 2016 19:59:57 GMT
Very similar looking to the medium range of isolation feet solid tech used to sell
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2016 7:05:49 GMT
As mentioned elsewhere here (equipment support thread I think) mine are fitted and the Isonoe feet are not going back on.
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Post by Stratmangler on Feb 12, 2016 11:58:55 GMT
I have been loaned a set of Bo!ng feet and Techniboots to play with and compare with the Isonoe feet & boots I have had fitted to my SL1210 for a good few years. Having just done a back to back comparison I can say that there is subtle tonal difference between the two - the Bo!ng feet bring a slight emphasis in the upper mids that gives additional life and sparkle to records. That upper mid emphasis is something I recognise from having used a Thorens TD125 MkII for many years. Acoustic guitar harmonics ring out and cymbals have sheen and shimmer. Bass is not as muscular as with the Isonoe feet/boots. The Isonoes, with their lack of upper mid emphasis give a slightly flatter presentation. Overall I think that the Bo!ng feet do a very good job. I like what they bring to the party  |
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Post by MikeMusic on Feb 12, 2016 12:50:47 GMT
I outed Isonoes and Techniboot in favour of RDC cones.
Better by some margin so I assume they would see off the Boings
My guess is that the latest Black Ravioli will outperform the lot
Be good to hear from anyone who has tested them all
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Post by Stratmangler on Feb 12, 2016 13:04:01 GMT
I tried RDC under my TT a long time ago.
I didn't like it - I found it hardened the midband, and it was audible on every record I played.
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Post by MartinT on Feb 12, 2016 13:09:14 GMT
RDCs can do that depending on what they're sitting on. I used to use Isonoes in Techniboots but have since found a better solution with RDCs to the EB S1NX shelf and then that on springs.
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Post by Pinch on Feb 12, 2016 13:13:29 GMT
WRT the Isonoes (as I think I mentioned when Martin originally posted about the RDCs) they can be improved for next to nothing by replacing the foam 'bushes' that sit between the underside of the deck and the top of the feet. These aren't at all sufficient to take the weight of the deck, which is then placed on the threads of the screws which secure the feet to the deck, and these are hardly secure at all. By replacing the bushes with some appropriately sized nylon spacers, you can ensure that the feet are firmly in place and that the weight is taken off the screws, and placed where it should be. I did this and it made for a noticeable improvement.
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Post by Stratmangler on Feb 12, 2016 13:16:21 GMT
I found RDC cups were good for taming the tweeters when used under the B&W DM601s I used to have.
The MkI tweeter could sound a bit ragged without the RDC cups.
The speakers were stood on sand filled Atacama SE24 stands, with the foot spikes going into RDC cups. The cups were there primarily to protect the laminate floor, but were beneficial to the sound I was getting.
Just to clarify, that's two layers of RDC, as the stands had top plate spikes fitted too. RDC between floor and stand, and RDC between stand and speaker.
I just never got on with RDC under source components.
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Post by Stratmangler on Feb 12, 2016 13:30:07 GMT
WRT the Isonoes (as I think I mentioned when Martin originally posted about the RDCs) they can be improved for next to nothing by replacing the foam 'bushes' that sit between the underside of the deck and the top of the feet. These aren't at all sufficient to take the weight of the deck, which is then placed on the threads of the screws which secure the feet to the deck, and these are hardly secure at all. By replacing the bushes with some appropriately sized nylon spacers, you can ensure that the feet are firmly in place and that the weight is taken off the screws, and placed where it should be. I did this and it made for a noticeable improvement. I might well give this a go. Any direction pointers for the spacers? |
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Post by Pinch on Feb 12, 2016 14:02:30 GMT
I just used ebay. The listing I used isn't up any more, but something like this looks more or less the same. An outer diameter of 20mm and a length of 10mm should be about right I think. edit Oh, I should say that if you do this then of course you won't be able to have the legs at different heights, so won't be able to use them to balance the deck (I think enabling this functiona is only reason the foam bushes are supplied as standard). |
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Post by Stratmangler on Feb 12, 2016 14:12:05 GMT
Thanks
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Post by MikeMusic on Feb 12, 2016 14:56:36 GMT
I should have mentioned...
The Technics sits on RDCs (previously Isonoes and Techniboots) which then sit on Steve's clever S1NX which then sits on Sorbothane and that on a Mana Reference top and rack
Could be a quite different sound without all that
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2016 18:00:16 GMT
I can't get excited about Isonoes. I didn't like what they did at all. Alto Extremo feet were miles better to me. I did appreciate their build quality and finish though,
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Post by MikeMusic on Feb 12, 2016 18:08:17 GMT
There's also Steve's Rockin Rollers
Anyone tried them on a Technics ?
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Post by MartinT on Feb 12, 2016 18:13:59 GMT
Never heard of them, Andrew. What kind of feet are they? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2016 18:45:22 GMT
They have a ball-bearing cupped between two outer bits. A top piece sits over the bearing and allows some movement. Not sure if they have any more "magic" to them, but they were really impressive to my ears. Tim from Divine Audio actually sent me a set of them and a set of Isonoes to play with. He said nothing about the price, nor did he express any preferences. I tried both and the difference was stark to say the least. I had to have the Altos but I expected them to be massively more expensive. They weren't, as it happens. When I said what I had experienced, Tim said he'd had similar findings, but wanted me to find out for myself. I bought a pair without hesitation and was very pleased with them. www.alto-extremo.com |
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Post by MartinT on Feb 13, 2016 7:21:29 GMT
Just looked them up. I see the Neoflex series are their highest recommendation for turntables, using repelling magnets. Interesting! I know Tim at Divine, may have a little chat with him.
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Post by John on Feb 13, 2016 7:54:24 GMT
The Salvation uses Magnetic feet and works well for that turntable but also has a magnetic bearing too. It certainly worth a try. But not sure how it would react to all those electronics (something you have to try first before buying)
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Post by dsjr on Feb 13, 2016 9:53:04 GMT
Magnetic 'feet' will cause the deck to 'float,' is that right. A lightweight deck like a techie will vibrate more with feedback I fear, because there's nowhere to 'sink' the energy. Why not 'just' try an Ikea Lack table  All these bits of angle iron, sorbothane and magic wooden cups/pointy-things are a bit 'foo' aren't they? The best answers are always the easiest and often cheapest I'm finding. |
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All these bits of angle iron, sorbothane and magic wooden cups/pointy-things are a bit 'foo' aren't they? The best answers are always the easiest and often cheapest I'm finding.