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Post by Chris on Dec 24, 2014 20:06:21 GMT
I'm thinking of trying out some of the anti cables speaker wire - has anyone used it? I'm also keen to hear opinions and alternative suggestions.
It'll be £25 for the length I require so nice and affordable but I am a bit sceptical......
As always,much appreciated.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2014 20:27:37 GMT
Ive never tried it despite being curious about it. I remember reading some posts saying exactly what the source cable was but I'm afraid I've long since forgotten. At £25 you can't really go wrong unless your amp has specific needs in terms of capacitance/inductance.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2014 20:33:07 GMT
Have had plenty of these pass through our hands over the years they work well Chris and punch above their weight worth a punt IMHO
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Post by ChrisB on Dec 24, 2014 22:28:57 GMT
Give 'em a go Chris. Tell us what you think of them. I spent years farting about with expensive cables, thinking they were doing all sorts of wonderful hifi miracles. Then, I spent more years making my own out of 'exotic' bits and pieces, thinking they were finally what I was looking for. Then I came to the realisation that good sensible wire is what is required, because with most systems you can make a more significant change by moving your speakers an inch or two, or cleaning your discs properly, or just by having a nice glass of wine. Cables are the last thing. They are not the icing on the cake, they are just the packaging that goes on the icing on the cake. If you're going to spend a lot on cables, then at least get the fundamentals sorted first.
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Post by Chris on Dec 25, 2014 2:46:58 GMT
Cheers fellas!
I'm utterly with you ChrisB. I simply use good quality un branded cable just now but what the hell....It's Christmas....
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Post by brian2957 on Dec 25, 2014 4:47:11 GMT
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Post by MikeMusic on Dec 26, 2014 12:06:36 GMT
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Post by ChrisB on Dec 26, 2014 12:20:52 GMT
Does Yannis do speaker wire now Mike?
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Post by MartinT on Dec 26, 2014 13:27:26 GMT
He does but it's not as good as his interconnects (IMO).
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Post by liffy99 on Dec 26, 2014 13:55:43 GMT
It's enammelled copper wire (aka transformer winding wire). It's fine. I used 1.6mm and 1.2mm thicknesses in a bi-amped set up. Only 'problem' is that it's stiff and springy so you need to route it carefully and not move speakers and amps about.
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Post by MikeMusic on Dec 26, 2014 15:11:13 GMT
Does Yannis do speaker wire now Mike? Oh, yes. But you have to talk to him nicely. My faves are still the Exposure electronics you can only buy 2nd hand
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Post by tony on Dec 26, 2014 16:38:00 GMT
I find like most things in life you get what you pay for. I find there are very noticeable differences between different cables and plugs -some folks don't and will cause a fight in an empty house defending they're position.
Buy them and let us know how you get on.
Brian of this parish has let me hear numerous cables he has made with different wiring configurations/plugs/plug metals-everyone of them sounds different but we all crave a different flavour of distortion....one mans meat is another mans poison!
Its a bit like cooking....give half a dozen folk the remit to make a meatballs dinner and you get half a dozen different dinners in front of you-all different but appealing to different tastes.
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Post by Chris on Dec 26, 2014 19:40:59 GMT
Many thanks for all the replies! Brian2957 - I was thinking along these lines as well but I'm a bit bothered by there being no covering to the wire. Would I have to add this or just run bare wire?
Mike - Cheers,I like the look of the Yannis stuff and the idea of getting a bit silver into the speaker wire appeals as well. Supposed to be nice with the ANKs. Can't see a price though!!
Liffy99 - Cheers. Did you have to run a cover over the wire? How did you find the sound? Any change? Better? Worse?
Tony - yeah I will do and I can cook AMAZING meatballs. Usually very,very hot n spicy. Actually worried Mrs Chris one time as I broke into a cold sweat and got a bit dizzy. Enjoyed them though!
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Post by brian2957 on Dec 26, 2014 23:43:01 GMT
Hi Chris , I think Anti Cables uses them with just the enamel coating on them and scrapes off the coating at each end to make a connection . I share your concerns and as I'm about to build some myself using either the enamelled wire from Maplins ( which I have already bought ) or the Copper wire from wires.co.uk ( which I have ordered ) I have also ordered 10m of 2mm heatshrink from Ebay at a cost of £4.60 to cover over the wires and provide extra insulation . IMO it would be a shame to wreck an expensive amp or speakers for the sake of saving a couple of quid. The heatshrink I have ordered is clear BTW , so may be a talking point ( or not ) .
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Post by Chris on Dec 27, 2014 5:03:09 GMT
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Post by brian2957 on Dec 27, 2014 8:44:45 GMT
Everything is worth a try Chris , especially if it doesn't burst the bank . Please keep us posted on your findings .
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Post by MartinT on Dec 28, 2014 10:43:16 GMT
It's really going back to single-core cables, first promoted by Jimmy Hughes if I remember correctly.
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Post by brian2957 on Dec 28, 2014 11:52:59 GMT
Well chaps , curiosity got the better of me and I made up a 2m set of speaker cables using the Maplins enamelled copper wire . I've lost the label and can't remember if this is 1mm or 1.6mm wire so I'll look into this if anyone is interested . To put things into context , I'm using this wire between my Sony TA F770ES amp and my Monitor Audio R852 speakers so YMMV when using this , hovever at around £9 for 12m of this stuff it has got to be worth a try . Previous speaker cables include TQ Black - Talk3 - Belden Coax ( which sounds excellent in my present system ) I left my system running on low volume last night and I've been listening now ( again at neighbour friendly volumes ) for the last few hours . Initial impressions are very good indeed . The sound of my system is very clean ,in fact even cleaner then with the Beldens IMO . I'm finding that well known tracks now make more sense , so singers voices must more audible . Bass is also cleaner and slightly more tuneful although not as deep as the much thicker Belden cable . I'm thoroughly enjoying the music though and don't feel that there's anything lacking compared to the Belden coax . I will leave my system running for the next 24 hours or so and come back to this . Following that I may , or may not , add another run of this wire per speaker and see what happens . At the moment I don't really feel the ' urge ' to do this which tells me that something must be working to my liking . Couple of caveats here . Firstly , this stuff is quite ' springy ' so watch your eyes . Secondly , I'm awaiting the arrival of some appropriate heatshrink to further insulate this wire as I think the enamel covering will eventually wear away if it's disturbed too often , so better be safe than sorry . It would be a shame to destroy a cherished amp or speakers for the sake of a fiver for some heatshrink from Ebay . All in all then a very nice speaker cable for under £15 plus the price if plugs ( or hardwired if you prefer so even cheaper ) As most of us know , not all cables work well in all systems , however it's worth experimenting at these sort of prices . EDIT : following a visit to Maplins today I can confirm that I'm using the 1.6mm wire . www.maplin.co.uk/p/enamelled-copper-wire-16mm-16swg-yn80b
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Post by MartinT on Dec 28, 2014 12:01:01 GMT
Beware that the heatshrink doesn't change the characteristics of the cable. I would heatshrink one set only (Left or Right) and then play them both, listen for any shift in the soundstage or other peculiarities.
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Post by brian2957 on Dec 28, 2014 12:10:05 GMT
Thanks Martin , I have bought the heatshrink several sizes bigger than the wire and won't be shrinking it to size . Alternatively I can use braiding , both are just to give some added protection . I would be grateful for some other suggestions or advice on this . Ta
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