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Post by MikeMusic on Dec 19, 2014 8:17:15 GMT
Her Saab 9000 2.3T has yet another problem, faulty ignition switch that just caused the starter motor to go
Other problems emanating from it that seem to be affecting the electrics.
Criteria
Auto - her dodgy leg is getting worse so main reason to get another motor
Petrol
Biggish and relatively well powered
New to her, 2nd hand
Cars seen and thought of so far
Saab 9.3 Estate, 9.5 Estate has to be on the list too
Ford Focus Estate, I'd also put Mondeo on
Jag X Type Sport Estate, bit thirsty ?
Merc C Class Estate, bit boring ?
Peugeot 497 Estate, French, I have an aversion to French motors
Honda Accord Estate
Skoda (forget which one or 2)
We're also finding out about Road Tax. Think it was the Jag at £450 a year !
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Post by Eduardo Wobblechops on Dec 19, 2014 10:58:24 GMT
Pre 2006 cars are cheaper on tax.
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Post by MartinT on Dec 19, 2014 11:09:26 GMT
Why petrol, Mike?
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Post by MikeMusic on Dec 19, 2014 11:38:51 GMT
Ooh goody pre 2006 keeps the price down !  Probably the recent thing on diesel particulates There is a rumour diesels will be scrapped |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2014 11:57:19 GMT
I had a pre 2006 car until a couple years ago and tax was high (£240?). My Passat Bluemotion 2000 SE Estate (diesel) is £30 a year tax. No way Diesels will be scrapped until they are replaced by some sort of hybrid without premium pricing. The new VW group 1.4 petrol has similar fuel economy and low emissions but you are talking about cars built in the last year or so. Particulate problems are exaggerated and OK on modern diesels - problem they have found dodgy garages removing filters on older vehicles instead of replacing when customers want to avoid expense.
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Post by julesd68 on Dec 19, 2014 12:22:34 GMT
Mike, I’m a huge Honda fan (we are on our second Civic) and I have always thought that the Accord Estate looks like a lovely car. I think it’s rather stylish and you should get the usual Honda reliability.
Totally agree about the French thing - you always see their cars near the bottom of the JD Power reliability surveys.
Skodas are certainly worth a look - the Octavia estate is meant to be very good. The more recent Skodas have small but turbocharged engines with good performance and MPG at the same time.
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Post by MartinT on Dec 19, 2014 13:04:01 GMT
There's nothing wrong with a modern diesel with a DPF filter. They all have them now. Fuel economy is usually in a different league from petrol and the style of delivery makes them feel generally more potent, too.
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Post by MikeMusic on Dec 19, 2014 13:32:26 GMT
Think the Saabs could be around £240
When cycling I have been appalled at the black clouds coming out of some cars. Assume the filter is gone
Should say 'petrol' is not my decision, but the boss
I may have a similar decision to make in the not too distant future.
Drove a quite old Focus and was very impressed.
Like the look of the Honda Aerodeck and some others.
The boss likes a big car so I was surprised when she even considered a Focus
When I think why we have Saabs there is a lot that we would like to retain in a new motor
The diesel scrappage is a rumour, perhaps for certain age.
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Post by Eduardo Wobblechops on Dec 19, 2014 19:54:07 GMT
I had a pre 2006 car until a couple years ago and tax was high (£240?). My Passat Bluemotion 2000 SE Estate (diesel) is £30 a year tax. No way Diesels will be scrapped until they are replaced by some sort of hybrid without premium pricing. The new VW group 1.4 petrol has similar fuel economy and low emissions but you are talking about cars built in the last year or so. Particulate problems are exaggerated and OK on modern diesels - problem they have found dodgy garages removing filters on older vehicles instead of replacing when customers want to avoid expense. |
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Post by Eduardo Wobblechops on Dec 19, 2014 20:07:29 GMT
There's nothing wrong with a modern diesel with a DPF filter. They all have them now. Fuel economy is usually in a different league from petrol and the style of delivery makes them feel generally more potent, too. A lot of people have problems if they do a lot of short journeys, not giving the DPF a chance to regenerate. |
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Post by MartinT on Dec 19, 2014 20:19:51 GMT
A lot of people have problems if they do a lot of short journeys, not giving the DPF a chance to regenerate. Take the bus! Yes, I know, but they do tend to be shopping cars of small size anyway so going diesel makes less sense. For me (56 miles a day), diesel makes a great deal of sense. |
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Post by Eduardo Wobblechops on Dec 19, 2014 22:01:10 GMT
Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking them, they have come a long way in the last few years , but I frequent a few car forums, and it's a common complaint.
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Post by MikeMusic on Dec 20, 2014 9:13:40 GMT
Thanks for the tax link
Maybe not now but don't diesels need more servicing ?
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Post by Eduardo Wobblechops on Dec 20, 2014 9:17:46 GMT
Generally yes, but in any case whatever you get it's a good idea to get an oil change every 3000 miles anyway IMHO.
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Post by MartinT on Dec 20, 2014 12:09:47 GMT
My oil change is pretty much once a year, expensive stuff but servicing is no more than my 540i used to cost. Diesel engines also last a lot longer.
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Post by MikeMusic on Dec 20, 2014 13:34:12 GMT
SWMBO has decided
If I was doing big miles I'd like go diesel
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2014 14:19:27 GMT
Generally yes, but in any case whatever you get it's a good idea to get an oil change every 3000 miles anyway IMHO. Oil change on modern diesels are 10,000 miles or annually though higher mileages with different oil / service set up. |
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Post by Eduardo Wobblechops on Dec 20, 2014 16:44:26 GMT
Yes, that's manufacturer's spec, which they do to keep servicing costs down to make buying one of their cars attractive. Doesn't mean it's not a good thing to change the oil more often IMHO.
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Post by Eduardo Wobblechops on Dec 20, 2014 17:11:34 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2014 17:37:36 GMT
That is based on 1970s technology. I have never changed oil in a car every 3000miles in 43 years of driving and no problems. Lowest probably 5 or 6 K on old petrol engines. Modern Engines are made to higher tolerances due to CNC machining technology. I regularly drove up to 12k between services in my old Toyota and never had engine problems even at 150K miles when it was scrapped (body going before mechanics).
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