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Post by MartinT on Jun 12, 2020 0:17:59 GMT
Yeah, and the Da Vinci Code got 6.6. What does that say about IMDB ratings?
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Post by julesd68 on Jun 12, 2020 13:19:16 GMT
I watched Hereditary last night. This film only cost $10 million to make but made $80 milion at the box office and it turns out to be very worthy of its success. You think it's going to be just another horror movie set in a house but turns out to be a lot more than that. There's so much to get your head round by the end and nothing is black and white. I'm giving nothing away - just watch it! The cast of this fractured family features the excellent Toni Collette and Gabriel Byrne, but all the other parts are very well cast too, including a gripping performance by Alex Wolff as the son, pictured below. For a movie debut it's incredibly confidently made - the way the camera moves, look and feel of the sets; clever and creative use of audio. Amazing attention to visual detail (spot the clues!) which will reward repeat viewing I'm sure. Ari Aster is really quite a talent, I just hope that he doesn't get carted off to make disappointing mainstream Hollywood. Having made Midsommar it will be very interesting to see how he develops.  |
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Post by rfan8312 on Jun 12, 2020 22:56:44 GMT
Yes, Hereditary is excellent imo. If you you can forget the ads and what this film was advertised as it's a killer sleeper hit about a family going through some things and the tension and internal strife is palpable in certain moments.
Some disturbing imagery beware. But I agree, it's so confidently and so competently made. I don't watch it often because it's so heavy but a couple of times per year its at the very top of my watch list.
Whichever full length film Ari Aster puts out next I'll be looking forward to.
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Post by rfan8312 on Jun 13, 2020 17:00:42 GMT
I wonder if you would like the Netflix film The Ritual, Jules. It has as thick an atmosphere as Hereditary imo. That and just a certain chemistry between the actors that really helps deliver the story.
It's been a favorite of mine since I first watched it. I love it.
It's about a group of friends in their 40's who take a trip to a new destination each year as a tradition. And this year's trip has some complications.
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Post by TheMooN on Jun 13, 2020 17:04:35 GMT
This evenings viewing.
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Post by julesd68 on Jun 13, 2020 17:32:54 GMT
I wonder if you would like the Netflix film The Ritual, Jules. It has as thick an atmosphere as Hereditary imo. That and just a certain chemistry between the actors that really helps deliver the story. It's been a favorite of mine since I first watched it. I love it. It's about a group of friends in their 40's who take a trip to a new destination each year as a tradition. And this year's trip has some complications. Thanks, that looks right up my street ... It's weird, my Netflix phone app won't find the film, but if I access it via a Google search it then shows up on the app, but then won't appear in my list after saving ... I will check it out on my TV app tonight and hope it's there. |
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Post by MartinT on Jun 13, 2020 17:34:21 GMT
I can't see it on Netflix, either.
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Post by julesd68 on Jun 13, 2020 18:03:10 GMT
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Post by rfan8312 on Jun 13, 2020 18:32:39 GMT
That's strange when I type in The Ritual on my mobile Netflix app it's the first result thst pops up.
The DVD picture on Netflix shows 4 guys walking away through a storm.
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Post by julesd68 on Jun 13, 2020 18:48:42 GMT
It's a conspiracy against me and Martin!
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Post by MartinT on Jun 13, 2020 19:13:36 GMT
Probably different rights in different territories.
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Post by brian2957 on Jun 13, 2020 20:42:38 GMT
Just watched ' One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest ' again tonight with the family , who had never seen it . Wonderful film  |
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Post by Tim on Jun 14, 2020 9:12:33 GMT
That's strange when I type in The Ritual on my mobile Netflix app it's the first result thst pops up. The DVD picture on Netflix shows 4 guys walking away through a storm. Aren't you in the US? It's in their catalogue, but not the UK one (just checked it's only in the US, CAN and AUS/NZ catalogues). I saw it at the cinema, OK ish but not in the same league as Hereditary for me.
Bang on Jules, I struggle to understand why it was billed as it was, I guess to get bums on seats, but for me it had a negative effect as most reviews, trailers and hype tend to. It really is so much more than a traditional horror and nothing like The Exorcist at all. I watched it again recently for the third time and it definitely stands up to repeat viewings.
Ari Aster is up there amongst my favourite directors. His next film is supposed to be a (very long) "nightmare comedy". He's finished the draft but I guess it'll be significantly delayed now.
It might be worth trying to find the directors cut of Midsommar Jules - I'm not sure why they cut some of the scenes they did for the theatrical release, but time might be a factor as it's 171mins. But it really adds a lot more. His original film was four hours and he cut it to 171 himself, so it's a true Directors Cut.
Buying my projector has turned out to be one of the best purchases I've made - the very weird thing is I made the decision in January and cancelled my Cineworld subscription early February, long before Covid-19. I also signed that on-line pledge to not fly in 2020 around New Year and decided to not go to many gigs or have a holiday in 2020. Now that's really spooky!
As an aside, do we have any Terrence Malick fans here?
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Post by Tim on Jun 14, 2020 9:17:53 GMT
Yeah, and the Da Vinci Code got 6.6. What does that say about IMDB ratings?Mainstream Martin, not reflective at all of reality - Rotten Tomatoes is more reliable.
IMDB is a bit like BBC weather, sometimes right and if you're not that particular it's OK, but it you want accuracy you go to the Met Office (Rotten Tomatoes)
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Post by MartinT on Jun 14, 2020 10:05:48 GMT
I know, but I do always rate films in IMDB as it's a useful aide memoir when I look back or cross-reference performers. Some of the ratings are hilarious (The Da Vinci Code should have received a generous 2) and generally films that I think of as classics are marked down.
Here's one example: the 2nd Solaris is one of the few remakes that I think transcends the (Tarkovsky) original in almost every way, especially in McElhone's mesmerising performance. It gets a 10 from me (a near-perfect film) yet IMDB gives it 6.2. Travesty.
Rotten Tomatoes is a good read, too.
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Post by Tim on Jun 14, 2020 10:51:58 GMT
I think it's an OK resource, but the scores are too random - take Bollywood films for example, often very highly scored as their niche audience all like them, but they are not seen by a large enough cross section of the public to be representative.
It's a better interface than RT, but if you are a bit more serious about film, it's limited. It's for the masses and for it's target audience I think it does a good job, I pretty much ignore the IMBD scores these days though.
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Post by rfan8312 on Jun 14, 2020 14:32:26 GMT
Yes Tim I'm in US, OK good to know, like Martin said, catalogues vary depending on region.
Yes The Ritual, which I think is fun, is not on the same level as Hereditary.
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Post by Tim on Jun 15, 2020 7:54:56 GMT
Hereditary has been added to the UK Netflix catalogue today if anyone hasn't seen it and might be interested
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Post by Slinger on Jun 15, 2020 14:25:27 GMT
Allow me to reflect on The Da Vinci Code a moment. Director: Ron Howard Starring: Tom Hanks, Audrey Tautou, Ian McKellen Screenplay: Akiva Goldsman Out of that little lot perhaps Akiva Goldsman is the only unfamiliar name. He produced two episodes and wrote three for Star Trek: Discovery, he wrote two episodes and directed two for Star Trek: Picard. Obviously his career features a lot more, but my examples are things that I know have been widely watched, and enjoyed. The Da Vinci Code had no pretensions. It set out to be a glossy thriller, it had a target audience, and achieved both aims quite well I'd say. I don't begrudge it its 6.6 in the slightest. A funky little black and white Iranian film with subtitles, real people/no actors, and a first time director might leave it in the starting gate in the high art stakes but it's the old "apples and oranges," argument. You have to judge things by what they are, not what you'd prefer them to be. The Da Vinci code was a good film, in that it delivered what it set out to do, and more than earned it's 6.6 and what it says about IMDB ratings is that a lot of people enjoyed it. FWIW I also quite enjoyed the followups, Angels and Demons (6.7) was fun, and Inferno (6.6) not quite so much fun.  |
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Post by julesd68 on Jun 15, 2020 14:41:25 GMT
I enjoyed the first two films Paul, they were good fun.
Didn't even know about a third so will have to watch that now!
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