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Post by rfan8312 on Jan 15, 2018 17:12:16 GMT
Wow. Sorry I can't get the link to play at moment I'm.near a poor connection area. It that does sound like it. To answer your question I am not sure that it was a young senator. It was definitely an old college buddy of Josh's. At one point in the room.where Josh is letting his old college buddy have it the buddy calls Josh "dude" and Josh lets him know "this isn't college anymore, this is for real now, don't call me dude".
Yes I agree with Pjdowns that the writing suffered alot after Sorkin left. They had some good years, but towards the end, what would have been a light moment with some clever humour, at that point resorted to near slapstick.
I loved Rob Lowe and Bradley Whitford and thought the character played by actor Josh Malina was very good. Alison Janney was good too.
Each show had so many layers and great tension.
BTW thanks so.much for that link. That may be it! I will know tonight.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2018 17:24:04 GMT
I thought they cast it really well, I particularly liked Martin Sheen as President Bartlett, his character grew throughout the series, alhthough to be fair they all grew.
I'd heard (although don't know how true it is) that the original intention was for Arnie Vinnick to win the Election, but all changed when Leo's actor, John Spencer died and they thought they should put some poisitivty back in, so that is why Matt Santos won.
Also, I thouught what they did with Toby's character was wrong, such was his character, that I can't see him betraying the president in the way he did. I read somewhere that Aaron Sorkin rang Richard Schieff and apologised when it was aired, as he said that was never the plan for his character.
Either way, I thought it was an excellent series. I wonder if they will ever do it again, maybe with Sam or Josh as the nominee/president.
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Post by Slinger on Jan 15, 2018 17:55:17 GMT
Wow. Sorry I can't get the link to play at moment I'm.near a poor connection area. It that does sound like it. To answer your question I am not sure that it was a young senator. It was definitely an old college buddy of Josh's. At one point in the room.where Josh is letting his old college buddy have it the buddy calls Josh "dude" and Josh lets him know "this isn't college anymore, this is for real now, don't call me dude". Yes I agree with Pjdowns that the writing suffered alot after Sorkin left. They had some good years, but towards the end, what would have been a light moment with some clever humour, at that point resorted to near slapstick. I loved Rob Lowe and Bradley Whitford and thought the character played by actor Josh Malina was very good. Alison Janney was good too. Each show had so many layers and great tension. BTW thanks so.much for that link. That may be it! I will know tonight. My pleasure. It was the only episode link I could find that mentioned a college buddy of Josh's. P.S. Alison Janney was definitely my favourite.
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Post by speedysteve on Jan 15, 2018 20:51:59 GMT
We started watching Fortitude this evening. Full of familiar faces, Scandi, British etc. From Sarah Lund to Doctor Who to Dumbledore! Fortitude could be the northern paradise on earth. Until the wheels come off the wagon and the blood starts to spurt I'm catching up on The Bridge. Now on series 2. Hans and Lillian an item! Didn't see that one coming. We've also caught up on Vikings series 5. Just 2 episodes to go. Pulling the Sami indigenous Northern most folk down south (the long walk or boat ride (past Harald's whalers etc) some 1700 miles to Kattegat in less than two moons) and giving them instant acting poisonous blow darts, was almost too much for my poor nerves.
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Post by MartinT on Jan 15, 2018 21:44:17 GMT
Ahh, Fortitude. So much promise, so much budget, so little to show for it. The best person in that was Sienna Guillory who played Natalie. She later had a major part as Eve in Lucky Man.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2018 21:50:14 GMT
She was excellent in Lucky Man.
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Post by MartinT on Jan 16, 2018 13:19:26 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2018 13:33:04 GMT
Oh good, the first series was very good.
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Post by Tim on Jan 22, 2018 9:33:23 GMT
Did anyone like Tin Star? I've watched 4 episodes so far and I'm finding it tedious. I like Tim Roth (a lot) but his character is so unbelievable it's not even funny. I also couldn't really give a toss why those clowns from London are trying to kill him, or why they ran away, it's just far too silly for me to care now. Poorly written and edited IMO, they are telling the story in a disjointed way and I'm losing the will to go much further with it. Mostly though it's his character that isn't convincing, it just wouldn't happen. Best bit was the very hard hitting trailer, so much promise
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2018 9:49:15 GMT
Did anyone like Tin Star? I've watched 4 episodes so far and I'm finding it tedious. I like Tim Roth (a lot) but his character is so unbelievable it's not even funny. I also couldn't really give a toss why those clowns from London are trying to kill him, or why they ran away, it's just far too silly for me to care now. Poorly written and edited IMO, they are telling the story in a disjointed way and I'm losing the will to go much further with it. Mostly though it's his character that isn't convincing, it just wouldn't happen. Best bit was the very hard hitting trailer, so much promise I watched all of it Tim, and I thought it was excellent. I am a real fan of Tim Roth, and thought that he acted the part at his usual high standard and the supporting cast were good too. I did however, find there were moments or episodes that were a little slow, but for me, if you watch to the end, it all makes sense and comes together.
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Post by MartinT on Jan 22, 2018 13:00:33 GMT
I liked it although I admit that the character is pretty far fetched. Tim Roth did what Time Roth does best, and I find him very entertaining playing that style (as in Lie to Me, another entertaining series).
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2018 13:26:42 GMT
Oh yes, Lie to me was excellent, I just wish they hadn't cancelled it because I thought there was so much more they could have done with the series and his character.
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Post by Tim on Jan 22, 2018 21:02:14 GMT
Well unfortunately for me Tin Star got much worse, not better. I think it's woeful in just about everyway, apart from the scenery. Actually no, the best bit is knowing I'm done with it and will never have to go near it again. Absolute drivel.
1/10
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Post by Slinger on Jan 23, 2018 1:42:32 GMT
Is anyone else watching "Six" on the 5Spike channel? It was first shown on History I believe. The first episode was pretty good and the show has definite potential. The closest parallel I can draw is with "The Unit" which I also enjoyed.
Here's the blurb...
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Post by MartinT on Jan 23, 2018 6:04:26 GMT
I liked The Unit.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2018 10:52:25 GMT
Well unfortunately for me Tin Star got much worse, not better. I think it's woeful in just about everyway, apart from the scenery. Actually no, the best bit is knowing I'm done with it and will never have to go near it again. Absolute drivel. 1/10 What did you dislike about it so much, Tim?
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Post by MikeMusic on Jan 23, 2018 11:28:01 GMT
Before we die
Swedish noir
No spoilers Has something that keeps you coming back
Then the penultimate episode - oh ! then the final episode !!!
Recommended
All available on All4. On episode 2 on Freeview
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Post by Tim on Jan 24, 2018 10:19:57 GMT
What did you dislike about it so much, Tim? Goodness me Paul, there’s so much I didn’t like that I could write pages and pages of critique, so I’ll just skim the cream off the top. The reason I sought it out was the trailer, which unusually they were showing in cinemas, otherwise I would have been none the wiser - it looked promising and I like Tim Roth, or used to. So, let’s look at that trail scene, a gunman (who we are later led to believe is expert in his craft, as he “never misses”) and three cohorts travel from the UK to Canada to kill him. Our would be ‘expert’ follows him, gets him in the perfect situation, totally alone and vulnerable and fires one shot through the windscreen, then retreats. WTF I mean WTAF? No advance to the vehicle to check the results, no repeat shots to make sure he’s dead? And I can tell you he would have seen him duck and know he’d missed. Also, how did blood get spattered on the windscreen from a child hit in the head from the front, who was sat low in the rear seat? Oh, and despite the police chief getting his child murdered, where was the murder investigation? Why was the Chief still working and when he hits the bottle, he’s not relieved of duty either – very, very silly script. Just that one opening scene is hugely flawed, both technically and from the viewpoint of setting up a credible story. Then the long parade of clichés starts, each episode has them in bucket loads. But I knew from his ‘rebel without a cause’ James Dean walk through town at the start (when they were all saying hello Chief), it was going to be full of clichés. I was actually groaning, "oh no, really" at that scene. Here’s a few other hum dinging script flaws, a town that size with not only what appears to be a sizeable population, a violent biker gang (who have apparently killed 7 police officers), a large-scale oil refinery plus construction workers and they have just 3 cops, so ridiculous it’s laughable. The female officer who got shot in the shoulder at a reasonably short distance from a high velocity rifle and she’s up and around with a sling and patch over the wound? That would have blown her shoulder apart. Also, the kicking he got from the biker gang after he knocked their bikes over? He’s up and around the next day with hardly any ill effects apart from a few bloody tissues scattered around the bathroom - I really could go on and on. For me to buy into something that’s not supposed to be a fantasy tale, it must be believable, there’s wasn’t anything remotely believable in this story. The screenwriter was either just lazy, not bothering to do any research, or a rank amateur. So was it a comedy or a drama, it was coming off as a comedy, but I know it’s not. Then there’s the wooden acting, just dreadful with characters changing personalities at will. To summarise then, very poor acting, a totally ridiculous, poorly written and deeply flawed script, no believable back-story, a dreadful portrayal of the native population and a cliché of a plot with numerous holes. Not one thing did I find remotely plausible and for me this was one of the worst TV dramas I’ve ever seen. Well you did ask 😉
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2018 10:36:17 GMT
hehe fair enough, Tim. I found it quite enthralling throughout, and really liked the acting by Tim Roth. I tend to agree that some of the suppoting actors weren't up to much, but that didn't bother me too much. For me, I rarely look for a TV series to be believable, unless I am watching a documentary or similar, so the fact that it went off on its own merry go round, doesn't phase me. Another example of horses for courses
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Post by Tim on Jan 24, 2018 11:45:26 GMT
Another example of horses for courses Absolutely . . . . I did like the scenery though
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