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Post by MartinT on Nov 10, 2014 6:31:45 GMT
Here's a little vote with a touch of interesting psychology behind it. What do you usually (there will always be exceptions, but go with your normal tendency) listen to in a song? Are the lyrics important to you, or is it the sound it makes, or do you treat both equally? I'll give my own response later, but I'll get the vote started.
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Post by jammy on Nov 10, 2014 6:47:00 GMT
Ive put both Martin, but the music would obviously be first, nice to have some quality lyrics as well though.......Like.......
"Me Im Just a Lawnmower, you can tell me by the way I Walk" ...!!!
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Post by John on Nov 10, 2014 7:21:24 GMT
I put both but guess the music will come first as enjoy a lot of jazz and fusion based music
Not really into catchy songs tend to prefer deep and meaningful
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2014 15:34:40 GMT
I clicked both but.....it depends to a degree on who it is I'm listening to (or to whom I am listening). If I know the singer has something worthwhile to say I may well be more tuned in to the words. Most pop music just has the words as something for the singer (if such they could be called) to do with their mouth. I very rarely listen to that now. The only singers I listen to regularly are the likes of Joni Mitchell, Paul Simon and maybe Gordon Lightfoot. I reckon 99% of my music is now classical, baroque and jazz - without any warbling women drowning out the orchestra  |
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Post by MartinT on Nov 10, 2014 15:53:12 GMT
I've analysed what it is I love about music and it's most definitely 'the sound it makes'. For me, the lyrics and storyline are secondary.
In classical, I listen to a lot of choral music and nearly all of it is in Latin, German or some other language. Even if sung in English it's often unintelligible, not to mention that I'm not religious so I prefer to ignore the words anyway. None of these things hold me back from loving the sheer sumptuous sound of massed choral singing. In fact, Ligeti got it right by having them make sounds that are not words. Elisabeth Fraser did similarly with the Cocteau Twins.
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Post by canetoad on Nov 10, 2014 22:22:07 GMT
Yep, it's always the music for me as well. Songs like American Pie obviously are all about the lyrics (and I like those types of songs as well) but I always get hooked by a good riff.
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Post by Clive on Nov 11, 2014 10:04:45 GMT
It's the sound for me. Unless the vocals are very clear I find it hard to pick out the lyrics. I believe the reason for this is that I'm dyslexic, most dyslexics cannot easily process a lot of aural information,this is often termed phonological processing or decoding. What happens is that I hear the music and my brain processes that well but it's hard work to pick out the vocals at the same time. Likewise I struggle more than most to hear people talking in noisy environments. The vast majority of dyslexics share this trait. Given that at least 10% of the population are on the dyslexic spectrum there may be a correlation as to who votes purely for the sound vs sound and lyrics.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2014 11:17:51 GMT
Went for sound. If the music isn't good the lyric doesn't work. There are songs I like with pretty poor lyrics but not the other way round. Often the instrumental breaks make a song - notorious examples = Maggie May and Baker Street. PS Jammy, stop quoting my forum signature. |
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Post by MartinT on Nov 11, 2014 11:37:22 GMT
I believe the reason for this is that I'm dyslexic, most dyslexics cannot easily process a lot of aural information,this is often termed phonological processing or decoding. What happens is that I hear the music and my brain processes that well but it's hard work to pick out the vocals at the same time. Likewise I struggle more than most to hear people talking in noisy environments. The vast majority of dyslexics share this trait. Fascinating, Clive. I too struggle to hear people in noisy environments like pubs and restaurants, which I try to avoid. I'm not on the dyslexic spectrum but possibly have tendencies in other ways. It may explain why I listen so intently to the sound and virtually ignore lyrics unless their meaning penetrates my brain. My partner is a SEN teacher and rattles off phrases like 'phonological processing' all the time. |
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Post by Clive on Nov 11, 2014 12:07:14 GMT
I believe the reason for this is that I'm dyslexic, most dyslexics cannot easily process a lot of aural information,this is often termed phonological processing or decoding. What happens is that I hear the music and my brain processes that well but it's hard work to pick out the vocals at the same time. Likewise I struggle more than most to hear people talking in noisy environments. The vast majority of dyslexics share this trait. Fascinating, Clive. I too struggle to hear people in noisy environments like pubs and restaurants, which I try to avoid. I'm not on the dyslexic spectrum but possibly have tendencies in other ways. It may explain why I listen so intently to the sound and virtually ignore lyrics unless their meaning penetrates my brain. My partner is a SEN teacher and rattles off phrases like 'phonological processing' all the time. My wife is a dyslexia coach having been a teacher for many years, she did a post-grad course in dyslexia. She's also a dyslexic coach as well as being a dyslexia coach! She got into this initially due to our kids having inherited our traits. Our daughter shares my love of music but my son and wife can take it or leave it. I believe there's a part of the dyslexic spectrum which connects the individual with rhythm and music in general. Martin, your partner may also talk about "spiky profile", ie a difficulties in some areas but fairly extremely good capabilities in others. My daughter is brilliant at art and design as well as loving music, she gets extra time at uni for work as she's so disorganised (another typical dyslexic trait). I've often thought in some ways it's unfair on others as she's better than most at being creative and the non-dyslexics don't get extra time for being only averagely creative! |
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Post by MikeMusic on Nov 11, 2014 12:51:11 GMT
The sound, 1st, 2nd and 3rd
The sound the vocals make is far more important to me than the words uttered.
When I hear the words I can be surprised
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