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Post by MikeMusic on Oct 16, 2014 12:03:11 GMT
A couple of years ago we were rung by PPL
They heard a radio playing and insisted we pay for a licence - in a printing company, no public around, just the people that work here
I reluctantly agreed even though I hate Capital Radio and daytime Radio 1.
- I'd pay *not* to have it
Fortunately I'm upstairs and rarely hear it
This year they have upped it as they want PRS and PPL and this seems to be around £110, even that is not certain.
More next year I'm sure
Anyone successfully challenged this lot ?
If not the radio goes
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Post by Stratmangler on Oct 16, 2014 12:44:45 GMT
How many employees?
IIRC 3 people in earshot of a radio playing constitutes rebroadcasting, and this is the angle the PRS comes at it from.
You need to bear in mind that everything you hear on the BBC and commercial radio stations such as Capital receives a royalty payment.
I know of someone who is supported in her old age by her late husband's royalty payments.
He wrote the BBC Radio2 jingle, so she's delighted to hear it getting played.
More money - kerching!!!
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Post by ChrisB on Oct 16, 2014 13:31:14 GMT
Well, in that case, you're buggered if you have a family of four. Or is this just in the workplace?
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Post by Stratmangler on Oct 16, 2014 13:41:49 GMT
Just in the workplace  |
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Post by MikeMusic on Oct 16, 2014 14:24:34 GMT
How many employees? IIRC 3 people in earshot of a radio playing constitutes rebroadcasting, and this is the angle the PRS comes at it from. You need to bear in mind that everything you hear on the BBC and commercial radio stations such as Capital receives a royalty payment. I know of someone who is supported in her old age by her late husband's royalty payments. He wrote the BBC Radio2 jingle, so she's delighted to hear it getting played. More money - kerching!!! 4 total. Me upstairs in my ivory tower doing the real work !  I'm sure it used to be 'public' only and I can see that if you have 50 people and the public wandering in and out Looks like we'll drop it then. I have never been keen and I don't like what I hear on the occasions I can. Not a professional image either |
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Post by MikeMusic on Oct 16, 2014 14:25:39 GMT
Just in the workplace And if you work from home, and have staff ? |
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Post by id4578 on Oct 18, 2014 8:07:29 GMT
A couple of years ago we were rung by PPL They heard a radio playing and insisted we pay for a licence - in a printing company, no public around, just the people that work here I reluctantly agreed even though I hate Capital Radio and daytime Radio 1. - I'd pay *not* to have it Fortunately I'm upstairs and rarely hear it This year they have upped it as they want PRS and PPL and this seems to be around £110, even that is not certain. More next year I'm sure Anyone successfully challenged this lot ? If not the radio goes They act like the mafia don't they! I've read lots of stories about them doing the exact same thing - they call up and listen to noises in the background. It's like a school bully shakedown for lunch money. I guess the warning for others is to not enter into discussion with them, don't admit to having a radio on if anyone happens to call and asks about it (say it's next door..). Sadly there doesn't seem to be much success in trying to argue against it - they go straight to court - and I think you might need one for a company of 4 as all employees are considered members of the public in relation to the inanimate business or in relation to the business owner, no matter how well you've got to know these members of the public. Here's a brief run down from some business website: www.businessbrainstorming.co.uk/expert-business-advice/print?id=115Quite why the law allows people to charge for re-broadcasting music which has already the royalties paid on, I don't know! Might be helpful to realise that they are a private company and are nothing government based i.e. they don't have any special powers to collect, only that can rely on the law to enforce licence payment in court. Here are some stories from techdirt.com: www.techdirt.com/articles/20111018/12124316405/hardware-store-that-doesnt-play-any-music-has-to-fight-off-collection-society-demanding-license-fee.shtmlwww.techdirt.com/articles/20090202/0128383597.shtml |
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Post by MikeMusic on Oct 18, 2014 9:27:38 GMT
Thanks for the info
They are pushy to put it mildly
I've read they bring in very expensive lawyers at the drop of a hat
'Not for profit' covers a wide area.
I'd be very interested to see how and what their people are paid. They must handle millions.
I wonder if they are like some of the 'charity' publishers who charge £100 for an advert and give £2 to the charity.
I'm happy for the radio to go. I'm sick of Capital Radio even in the few times I hear it
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Post by id4578 on Nov 24, 2014 17:56:22 GMT
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Post by MikeMusic on Nov 25, 2014 8:20:01 GMT
If enough people complain enough then something will happen
But I'm sure this lot will find a way to continue to exist and extract money
Would love to see their financials and staff wages
My guess is 'non profit' but huge salaries for management with those phoning out on massive commissions
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Post by MartinT on Nov 25, 2014 8:42:04 GMT
The BBC with their TV licence outsourced company are known to use pressure techniques to extract payments.
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