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Post by speedysteve on Dec 22, 2018 8:55:27 GMT
After searching on the problem of Spotify not showing Volumio in the devices list one chap found
"Solved this by installing an alternative plugin, volspotconnect"
I'll give it a try. Which Plugin do you use Martin?
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Post by speedysteve on Dec 22, 2018 12:02:54 GMT
Christmas from Allo! Just arrived. Will install this evening if I get time..  Kali - may her many arms and hands intercept the poor Rpi clock signals and provide order and structure where there is none.  |
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Post by John on Dec 22, 2018 12:33:00 GMT
Hope it works for you Steve
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Post by MartinT on Dec 22, 2018 12:40:41 GMT
Steve, I used to use volspotconnect while it was being developed. However, that was folded into main development so I now use the Spotify Connect plug-in provided with the latest MyVolumio. That works faultlessly for me.
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Post by speedysteve on Dec 22, 2018 13:23:59 GMT
Steve, I used to use volspotconnect while it was being developed. However, that was folded into main development so I now use the Spotify Connect plug-in provided with the latest MyVolumio. That works faultlessly for me. Ah I see. That might have been an old post then.. didn't look carefully. I have Spotify Connect.. If more troubles I try a fresh installation. I saw there was a new version a few days ago, so will go for that too. |
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Post by speedysteve on Dec 22, 2018 18:58:46 GMT
I had time to plumb the Allo Kali Reclocker in. In the blurb it shows 3 pins..  These are the exact same as Rpi. Then for good measure I've added an earth for each one.. Sound is the same on those certain tracks (all weird), but on all tracks any lispy singing is accentuated way beyond the normal - not pleasant on some tracks.. My next step is to remove the earths one at a time, perhaps they are not necessary? Perhaps 3 of then is confusing the issue? Otherwise I'll compare the WaveIO wiring and see how many connections that used and duplicate! WaveIO worked it's I2S magic impeccably. So more fun and games to be |
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Post by MartinT on Dec 22, 2018 20:04:59 GMT
You are leading the way on I2S. connection, so there are bound to be teething issues, Steve.
Keep the faith!
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Post by speedysteve on Dec 22, 2018 21:37:45 GMT
You are leading the way on I 2S. connection, so there are bound to be teething issues, Steve. Keep the faith! Oh yes faith kept. It sounds so clear and superb in potential.. need to get that on all music I can throw at it. I checked the WaveIO pin config and it's identical.. same number of earths too. More research needed as there are seemingly several clk and data pins to try.. |
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Post by speedysteve on Dec 23, 2018 19:00:27 GMT
After a few more tries with and without the Kali reclocker, I tried the RPi with Kali reclocker and Hifiberry. Couldn't get a lock onto the Najda DAC. Volumio is present and correct, visible in Spotify, seemingly playing, just no lock. So the RPi is back on the bench for further testing.. I'm using my pimped ChromeCast Audio right now. Gives correct, all channel sound  |
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Post by John on Dec 23, 2018 19:18:00 GMT
Hope you can solve this Steve
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Post by MartinT on Dec 23, 2018 22:31:50 GMT
Steve, try burning the SD card again or perform a factory reset. Sometimes too many changes...
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Post by speedysteve on Dec 24, 2018 8:05:20 GMT
Steve, try burning the SD card again or perform a factory reset. Sometimes too many changes... Yeah we'll do, and have it on the bench for testing awhile.. |
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Post by MartinT on Dec 29, 2018 13:22:28 GMT
Steve, this article suggests that the RPi I 2S output is not up to acceptable quality due to the jitter created by it not being able to derive an exact 44.1kHz clock. This is why I think the DigiOne or DigiOne Signature would be best for you, as it derives its own high quality clocks isolated from the Pi ones. Get your S/PDIF working at its best at the Najda end (perhaps a superclock module?) and you'd be onto a winner. |
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Post by speedysteve on Dec 29, 2018 18:16:59 GMT
Isn't that what Kali should do though?
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Post by MartinT on Dec 29, 2018 18:46:28 GMT
Isn't that what Kali should do though? I guess so, but it's not a module I'm familiar with so I can't say for sure. If it acts as the master for the RPi's send clock then yes, it should do the job. |
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Post by John on Dec 29, 2018 19:32:55 GMT
Yes the Kali should do that
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Post by speedysteve on Dec 29, 2018 21:51:19 GMT
Yeah, I'll test it all again sometime soon.. I know I2S Najda works, as WaveIO I2S worked fine. We know great sense can be made out the RPi clock mess by Digi one and signature, so that's fine! I'll get in touch with Allo in the new year if I can't get it working.. In the meantime my Tidal trial period has expired. It's all down to Spotify / RPi now |
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Post by MartinT on Dec 30, 2018 0:25:25 GMT
Spotify will take you a long way, Steve, before you need worry about hitting the buffers.
There is far more SQ to be reaped than almost all people give it credit for.
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Post by speedysteve on Dec 30, 2018 13:49:34 GMT
Today's messing about has been to format the SD card and load fresh Volumio. I first set up the Rpi and Hifiberry DAC and got it working perfectly. I'd done some reading and you can't use Kali and Hifiberry together as Kali needs a slave (sounds about right for a goddess - esp one of time.. ). Got a bit of the way into connecting up RPi and Kali, until lunch and going out stopped play. In the Kali blurb it shows one extra pin as Master clock MCLK as well as BCLK. The only other connections are Data and LRCKL. I'd been using BCLK as that was what RPi connections I've found showed. Perhaps no surprise it sounded same crap. I've not been able to find out yet if it's okay to use MCLK instead.. What's the worst that can happen |
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Post by MartinT on Dec 30, 2018 16:11:03 GMT
There is no MCLK in the Pi so the Kali must be generating one. My understanding is that the receiving device (in your case the Najda) must supply the clock locally if it's not seeing MCLK. Sounds like there's a couple of ways you can go.
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