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Post by MartinT on Jan 19, 2015 20:27:33 GMT
That'll be my next one, John. Next month!
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Post by MikeMusic on Jan 20, 2015 9:37:04 GMT
Tried my first SR Red last night.
Horribly expensive for a *fuse*, but a fabulous result for £50.
Noticeably more weight to everything. More detail and more oomph in the bass.
More 'real'
That's one in the P10 power lead
More to try, hopefully tonight
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Post by MartinT on Jan 20, 2015 9:44:29 GMT
Since the P10 uses two fuses in series (the plug 13A one and rear panel 3A one), when you replace the rear panel one to the same type you're in for a very pleasant surprise.
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Post by MikeMusic on Jan 20, 2015 13:17:57 GMT
Oh goody
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Post by MikeMusic on Jan 20, 2015 21:36:33 GMT
Almost didn't do it as work was not good today.
Late for me and testing again.
System sounds *good*
Into the back of the P10 goes the SR Red.
First thing
The room was instantly bigger. That was a total surprise.
More weight again in all areas.
Mavis way closer to the mike. The backing singers on her shoulder surely.
Ry Cooder seems to have developed an accent on his guitar.
More detail.
Madness.
All that kit made better by a tiny little fuse
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Post by MartinT on Jan 20, 2015 22:28:27 GMT
Excellent, Mike. Very closely mirrors my findings.
It's almost bizarre, isn't it? But most welcome.
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Post by MikeMusic on Jan 21, 2015 17:10:02 GMT
Chord tonight if I can manage it.
Knackered after another hard day at work
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2015 15:05:27 GMT
OK - I didn't believe the SR fuse manufacturer when they made some comment about treating the fuses with 2,000,000V. However I have just found that the most powerful stun guns generate that voltage - so they could've replicated stun gun technology (you can't get one out of the states - export limited).
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Post by MikeMusic on Jan 27, 2015 15:25:50 GMT
Briefly 'cos I'm flat out at work
SR into the Chord on Sunday
The room continues to change shape and grow
SR into the Pass Labs PSU. More of the same
There is now a lot more weight to the sound on all frequencies.
Wonderful bass but also more detailed midrange with some more top end detail
They stay for sure
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Post by Greg on Jan 29, 2015 21:23:24 GMT
Yep, you probably could get the same effect by buying a standard fuse simply uprated by just one amp. That is my personal experience. Costs peanuts but should only be done if you are sure you amp circuit is safe. Just my 2 pence worth!
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Post by MartinT on Jan 29, 2015 22:34:40 GMT
In my case, almost all my fuse changes have been 13A to 13A, so it's not the rating that's changed.
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Post by zathras on Jan 30, 2015 8:35:56 GMT
The placebo effect must be eliminated before any conclusions can be drawn, unknown substitution or not of the fuse would eliminate new purchase bias.
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Post by John on Jan 30, 2015 14:37:07 GMT
Well have put one onto my amp I let you know how it goes in a few days time.
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Post by tony on Jan 30, 2015 17:50:41 GMT
I got a loan of a phonosophie fuse a few years ago. I thought I was imagining the improvements it made. Sat my son and wife down and asked them if they could hear a difference-they thought I had flipped this time!!
Lo and behold they both heard a noticeable improvement-felt relieved as I thought it was maybe just me. Bought three in the end, always use them with mains stuff, one in front of the balanced mains helped the whole shebang.
In this hobby its probably best to try things for yourself-once you reach a level that your system is resolving tiny differences small tweaks like this can really make a difference. suck it and see-keep your mind and ears open.
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Post by Greg on Jan 30, 2015 20:59:25 GMT
In my case, almost all my fuse changes have been 13A to 13A, so it's not the rating that's changed. Sorry, I think I misunderstood you leading me to talk with cross purposes. I am not talking about the mains fuse designed to protect the AC source cable only, but rather the amp protection fuse associated with the IEC socket fitted into the amp. I do not know if your 13amp source fuses would improve the sound of my system as I have never tried them. In my case, 1.7amp was standard in the IEC socket and replacing with 2.5 or even 5amp made a significant difference in terms of music presentation bringing a far greater fullness and authority to the sound. Absolutely no need for fancy fuses in this application IMHO. Suck it and see  Oh, and to be controversial, probably the best option would be to thoroughly protect your system at the distribution panel, use a dedicated uprated dedicated spur and dispense with fuses completely. Then introduce the old yet still available 15 amp fuseless round pin plug and socket system to feed all your kit. Surely this would give you the best performance and has the added benefit that your Mrs' will never unplug your Hi-Fi to plug in the vacuum.....sorry, that is a bit sexist, but I'm sure you know what I mean  |
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Post by MartinT on Jan 30, 2015 21:31:21 GMT
Hah! I hear you, but my regenerator is a UK spec one with UK sockets on the rear, so I'm not going to change my cabling for non-fused ones any time soon.
None of my components have accessible rear panel fuses except the regenerator, and that now has a 3A SR Red in it, greatly outperforming the Hi-Fi Tuning one I used previously.
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Post by John on Jan 31, 2015 16:57:53 GMT
This as been a bit of mixed bag for me
Initially I tried the fuse with my Amp I figured it would make the biggest difference. It certainly changed the tonality of the system and whilst it did add more depth the sound also was a bit more forward which is the last thing my system needs.
Decided to use the fuse for the Blue Ray Transport instead and bingo detail without the sound being to punchy for me.
I will keep the fuse as I like the depth it added to the soundstage when used with the transport.
Just to add over the last week I been using Extreme Silver treatment on all my electrical contacts (something I tried years ago but thought was a bit of foo as did not hear much difference, I still had some left over) This time made a nice positive difference. The kind of difference Martin been talking about with the red fuse. Not sure how to explain that one but that was when I had a very different system.
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Post by MartinT on Feb 1, 2015 9:29:09 GMT
Which fuse did you try, John? AMR?
Where did you get Extreme Silver treatment from?
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Post by John on Feb 1, 2015 9:55:37 GMT
I got the extreme audio Silver treatment from Walker Audio about 5 to 8 years ago. The fuses where some not so expensive ones from ebay. To be honest it was the treatment which made the difference in SQ at the time. I only noticed a slight difference with the improved fuses I got. Next time I am over you I bring what I got left and you can experiment also if you wish. |
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Post by jammy on Feb 9, 2015 6:03:05 GMT
"FOR THOSE WHO ENTHUSE ABOUT THE FUSE" Its FOO again - £57 for a fuse ......Get real folk's. Get a handfull of fuses and you wont be able to tell the standard ones from the Snake oil type..!! Save yer dosh - Buy some Music.  |
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